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BaftaBaby |
Posted - 08/13/2007 : 05:58:57 Four Your Consideration - Treasure Hunt
Put any five reviews you like in your F.Y.C. list. Do not use reviews from the previous round - you must change them every round. Post here to declare that you've done it. Sooner is better than later. Provide a spoiler warning in your post when appropriate. You must read the F.Y.C.s of all participants. The next round starts on Monday or Thursday at 6:00 a.m. FWFR time, whichever comes next.
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15 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
randall |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 23:54:33 The f--king popcorn numbers make the review valid. |
Whippersnapper. |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 15:15:59
A complex character indeed.
However, it would have been quite possible to be very anti-Communist and still object to the flimsy reasoning by which many artists were blacklisted. After all, the essential dishonesty in McCarthyism was the approbrium they heaped on named "communists" without any fair legal process.
In any case, some blacklisted artists were hired for The Ten Commandments and I assume the path of least resistance would have been not to hire them. Given his general views, I'd assume that he hired them because he believed they were not communists rather than a belief that communists should be hired just like anyone else.
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Ali |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 14:57:24 I have come across a slightly different set of facts:
quote: [The Ten Commandments] again made a large profit for Paramount. De Mille however was much disliked by this point, and rightfully so, for his ultra right-wing tactics and heated anti-communist stance, as well as his helping in the witch hunts of that era. His attempt to take control of the Director's Guild from Joseph L. Mankiewicz...mainly because Mankiewicz was not born in America and was thought to be an "undesirable alien"...only ended up backfiring in his face (thanks in part to John Ford, who personally disliked De Mille and was one of the few directors in Hollywood to constantly stand up to him). Despite these rather tragic flaws, De Mille does remain an amazing influence on countless filmakers, many of whom still wish to combine a good story with impressive, stylistic productions and visuals.
Here.
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Whippersnapper. |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 14:18:53
He's politically not so straightforward it seems.
He was a Republican, and was involved in some famous battles with the unions, one being over a $1 levy which cost him $100,000 a year (!) but he never testified against anyone to HUAC and in fact, for "The Ten Commandments" he personally broke the boycott, which he considered unfair, by hiring blacklisted artists, including Elmer Bernstein and Edward G Robinson.
So, although very much a Republican, he also had firm political principles even if it cost him money or meant taking on McCarthyism.
http://www.cecilbdemille.com/bio.html
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Ali |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 14:00:54 Yeah - that is why I had to check his right-wing credentials.
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Whippersnapper. |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 13:58:19
Actually Cecil B DeMille was Jewish under Jewish law, as his mother was Jewish and religious descent is matrilineal. (He was brought up as an Episcopalian - his father being a lay minister.)
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Ali |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 13:18:15 Thanks to my friend Whipper who corrected me privately, Birth of a Nation is, of course, a D.W. Griffith film. The gist of my argument still holds, of course, joined, in turn, by my sheer arrogance-fuelled idiocy.
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randall |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 10:44:05 quote: Originally posted by Ali
quote: Originally posted by Randall
1) Have to speak up for the COMMANDMENTS review. Wasn't this DeMille's biggest hit ever? [Somebody knowledgable correct me if 'tain't so.]
I don't have a habit of explaining my reviews. In fact, the more condescending an explanation of a given review on an FYCTH, the less likely I am to vote for the respective review, however wonderful it might be. I end up voting for them in a few weeks when I do my usual catch-up anyway.
Having said that, and knowing that Beanmimo has reported it (I have said this many a time, but it must be repeated ad infinitum: reporting a review is pathetic in its poltroonery), I will support my original review - a list of reasons that I have previously pm'ed Beanmimo.
Firstly, ever since the relaxation of the generic rule, a review CAN apply to more than one film. Secondly, It was also De Mille's most successful movie, and a HUGE box office hit at the time: again a triumph. Finally, Cecil B DeMille was a right winger, and his "Birth of a Nation" was very sympathetic towards the KKK. Thus, my review is an ironic nod, too, since the film is actually about Moses and the Jews, even though the review is a pun on a Nazi propaganda film. It's not the best review in the world. However, it is anything but "too generic."
Uh, just "biggest hit" works for me. |
Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 10:16:47 quote: Originally posted by Beanmimo
Yeah a rash decision on my behalf and I'm sure it will be ignored by the MERPS.
It's only Benj who can reject already-approved reviews, unless the system has changed without him telling us. |
Beanmimo |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 09:19:34 Yeah a rash decision on my behalf and I'm sure it will be quickly passed over by Benj.
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Ali |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 07:05:39
quote: Originally posted by Randall
1) Have to speak up for the COMMANDMENTS review. Wasn't this DeMille's biggest hit ever? [Somebody knowledgable correct me if 'tain't so.]
I don't have a habit of explaining my reviews. In fact, the more condescending an explanation of a given review on an FYCTH, the less likely I am to vote for the respective review, however wonderful it might be. I end up voting for them in a few weeks when I do my usual catch-up anyway.
Having said that, and knowing that Beanmimo has reported it (I have said this many a time, but it must be repeated ad infinitum: reporting a review is pathetic in its poltroonery), I will support my original review - a list of reasons that I have previously pm'ed Beanmimo.
Firstly, ever since the relaxation of the generic rule, a review CAN apply to more than one film. Secondly, It was also De Mille's most successful movie, and a HUGE box office hit at the time: again a triumph. Finally, Cecil B DeMille was a right winger, and his "Birth of a Nation" was very sympathetic towards the KKK. Thus, my review is an ironic nod, too, since the film is actually about Moses and the Jews, even though the review is a pun on a Nazi propaganda film. It's not the best review in the world. However, it is anything but "too generic."
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thefoxboy |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 05:37:04 VV |
demonic |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 04:54:41 Saw 'em. Loved Redpen's "Murder in the First" review. |
rockfsh |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 02:46:08 Thanks Yukon. Ah the trials of newbies... Well smack my MAC
http://www.fwfr.com/user.asp?id=11219 |
Yukon |
Posted - 08/16/2007 : 02:34:58 quote: Originally posted by rockfsh
quote: Originally posted by Josh_the_cat
VR&VA
rockfsh your link is wrong,again.
I struggle to believe that I would only be the second person to vote for LadyMeerkats reviews!
Josh the cat
The link works for me and I've been getting votes so I can't imagine what's going on (Am I on your ignore list ) Here's a raw link: http://fwfr.com/user.asp?id=11219
Rockfish, when I first started, I ran into this problem a lot.
When I cut and pasted a link from my home computer (a PC), it worked fine, but when I cut and pasted a link from my work computer (a Mac), it always left out the "www." I see the same thing happened with your link. The link without "www" will work for you but not other people. Hope that helps. |
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