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| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/01/2007 : 13:41:49
I've now voted in all 19 categories for Round One.
As promised, here are my first round votes for Film of the Year. Actually, we get 12 votes for this stage and category, but as you see, I've only used 6. They're in alphabetical order:
Babel
Breaking and Entering
Casino Royale
The Departed
Flags of our Fathers
The Wind that Shakes the Barley
Here's my BAFTA challenge:
You post your own Best Six -- the films have to have been released in the UK in 2006 and you have to have seen all the films you list. For each of your films that makes it to Round Two on the BAFTA list, I will vote for a page of your low-vote reviews. The new list should be out on 4 Jan.
Please list your films alphabetically, since priority order won't be an issue until Round Three. Who'll take up this movie gauntlet? 
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| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 12:59:30
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Originally posted by Salopian
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe
The BAFTA rules state that a film qualifies if it gets even one commercial showing during the relevant year. The distributors are meticulous about this, and have never apparently lost a challenge. So we BAFTA members trust that somewhere in the UK Babel received such a showing to qualify. General release is quite another matter, but not relevant for BAFTA award purposes.
Interesting, thanks. Do they put on commercial showings specially for this purpose then? It's just that it's general release is the 19th, so that's too far ahead for there really even to have been normal previews.
Please don't imagine you've asked a simple question, Sal  
Studios will spend lotsa their enormous P&A budgets on assuring their stuff is in with a chance for awards. Used to be that Oscars were the only award-game in town. Then Golden Globes seemed to presage Oscar results - but it was harder for the studios to influence those votes which are outside the industry itself. Then BAFTA started to figure strongly for many reasons too complex to go into here.
Distribution is a law unto itself. It's actually the distrib and exhib parts of the industry which are the biggest earners. Production and all the talent are there merely to serve them [well, that's what they think]. Back in the steam days US studios harboured all three film arms under one banner; but along came anti-trust legistlation forcing studios to concentrate on production only. Inside the US boundaries, that is. Major US studios still control the distrib and exhib biz globally, which is why you see such massive pushes of US mainstream films in every nook and cranny.
Only Bollywood with Hong Kong a close 2nd, world's largest film producers, has real clout - but primarily inside their own borders. Though with the recent diaspora cine takings for Indian and Chinese films is growing rapidly. France seems to be the only Euro country to enact exhib quota laws so that its own indiginous industry has a chance. UK used to have a great system to keep its production arm healthy - every ticket sold used to have a levy which went back into a funding pot for production. Thatcher gov swept that away, and UK industry has been floundering ever since. Option are: make more US-acceptable films or rely on tv money from BBC, Channel 4. And even they've become more ready to chase the US market.
Point is: US distrib and exhib interests which operate abroad control a significant element of culture in what they regard as "territories." That's what enrages so many in the movie industry outside the States which they regard as cultural imperialists. If any continental block could band together - Asia, Europe - to promote its own distrib/exhib nexus it could challenge US domination. For a while during the 1980s and 90s there was a move toward co-production throughout Europe, quickly to be known as Euro-pudding, since it mostly produced tasteless melanges of talent - but never has there been a similar initiative for distrib/exhib.
Sorry - rant over. It's a particular hobby-horse of mine 
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| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 10:14:36
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
The BAFTA rules state that a film qualifies if it gets even one commercial showing during the relevant year. The distributors are meticulous about this, and have never apparently lost a challenge. So we BAFTA members trust that somewhere in the UK Babel received such a showing to qualify. General release is quite another matter, but not relevant for BAFTA award purposes.
Interesting, thanks. Do they put on commercial showings specially for this purpose then? It's just that it's general release is the 19th, so that's too far ahead for there really even to have been normal previews. |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 09:59:18
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Originally posted by Salopian
[br I haven't seen Babel, as it isn't in cinemas yet. How does it count as 2006? Were there advanced screenings or do film festivals count or something?
The BAFTA rules state that a film qualifies if it gets even one commercial showing during the relevant year. The distributors are meticulous about this, and have never apparently lost a challenge. So we BAFTA members trust that somewhere in the UK Babel received such a showing to qualify. General release is quite another matter, but not relevant for BAFTA award purposes. I believe the Oscars operate a similar policy.
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| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 09:50:37
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
THE RESULTS ARE IN FOR STAGE ONE
Both Chocolate Lady and Rovark were spot on with Casino Royale
Rovark also scores for Little Miss Sunshine
Tomorrow I will visit your lowest vote page CL, and Rovark I will visit your two lowest vote pages.
And, if anyone is interested  I got four:
Babel
Casino Royale
The Departed
Flags of the Fathers
Out of those five, I would have only said Little Miss Sunshine. (I unfortunately didn't see this thread in time.) The Departed and Flags of Our Fathers were good, but not in the top rank. I haven't seen Babel, as it isn't in cinemas yet. How does it count as 2006? Were there advanced screenings or do film festivals count or something? |
| Paddy C |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 09:19:05
Here's my suggestions:
Borat
Little Miss Sunshine
Stranger Than Fiction
Thank You For Smoking
The Departed
A Scanner Darkly
(But I haven't seen Babel yet, which I'm dying to get to... or Pan's Labyrinth either, for shame..)
Honourable mentions to Volver, Casino Royale and Dead Man's Chest. |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/05/2007 : 08:48:04
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Originally posted by turrell
my personal best 6:
Babel
Dreamgirls
The Departed
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen
Thank You for Smoking
Looking at this list I'd have to say it was a rather weak year for really good movies - these are all fine movies, but none that I think are terribly ground breaking.
I agree, Turrell, it was a comparitively weak year. There seemed to be several films which excelled in one aspect but were deficient in others. No one film I think just leaped off the lists to Number One. Of your own list, I suspect that would be Babel -- for its ambition, its brilliant editing, its controlled complexity so beautifully realized by I��rritu!
PS Judging by the BAFTA list so far don't be surprised if Apocalypto pops up more often than some would like.
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| turrell |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 22:02:24
my personal best 6:
Babel
Dreamgirls
The Departed
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen
Thank You for Smoking
Looking at this list I'd have to say it was a rather weak year for really good movies - these are all fine movies, but none that I think are terribly ground breaking. |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/04/2007 : 21:20:20
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe
I've now voted in all 19 categories for Round One.
As promised, here are my first round votes for Film of the Year. Actually, we get 12 votes for this stage and category, but as you see, I've only used 6. They're in alphabetical order:
Babel
Breaking and Entering
Casino Royale
The Departed
Flags of our Fathers
The Wind that Shakes the Barley
Here's my BAFTA challenge:
You post your own Best Six -- the films have to have been released in the UK in 2006 and you have to have seen all the films you list. For each of your films that makes it to Round Two on the BAFTA list, I will vote for a page of your low-vote reviews. The new list should be out on 4 Jan.
Please list your films alphabetically, since priority order won't be an issue until Round Three. Who'll take up this movie gauntlet?
THE RESULTS ARE IN FOR STAGE ONE
Both Chocolate Lady and Rovark were spot on with Casino Royale
Rovark also scores for Little Miss Sunshine
Tomorrow I will visit your lowest vote page CL, and Rovark I will visit your two lowest vote pages.
And, if anyone is interested I got four:
Babel
Casino Royale
The Departed
Flags of the Fathers
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| randall |
Posted - 01/02/2007 : 00:38:59
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
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Originally posted by Randall
Sorry, haven't seen most of the contenders yet. Since I must trudge through at year end without a Baffy card, DVD time turns out to be my screening time. Absent said card or one similar, it's just too expensive to keep up.
Uhm ... well, if we're all still here next year, remind me and I'll do something retroactive 
That's not a bad idea...if people are still interested in 2006s. |
| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/02/2007 : 00:17:09
quote:
Originally posted by Randall
Sorry, haven't seen most of the contenders yet. Since I must trudge through at year end without a Baffy card, DVD time turns out to be my screening time. Absent said card or one similar, it's just too expensive to keep up.
Uhm ... well, if we're all still here next year, remind me and I'll do something retroactive
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| Rovark |
Posted - 01/01/2007 : 16:19:55
Damn, there's a lot of award fodder that I never saw on the big screen, but my favorites of those I actually saw were -
Casino Royale
The Da Vinci Code
Little Miss Sunshine
Pirates Of The Caribean II
A Scanner Darkly
V For Vendetta
honorable mentions for 16 Blocks, Clerks II and Lucky Number Slevin, but the above's my six |
| ChocolateLady |
Posted - 01/01/2007 : 15:31:40
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
I'll assume you've seen the rest on your list; but if not, please revise accordingly.
Ooops. Sorry. Then I can only give you:
Casino Royale
Cars
Happy Feet
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
(I haven't seen any of the others and I wouldn't actually vote for Cars, since I didn't think it was that good.)
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| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/01/2007 : 15:24:14
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
I don't know much, since I haven't seen that many but from what I hear from everyone, The Departed is a contender to win. But if I have to pick six, I'll go with...
Casino Royale
Departed, The
Pan's Labyrinth
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Queen, The
Volver
Lovely! And thanks for jumping in, Chocolate Lady! I'll accept the other 5, but not The Departed if you haven't seen it. You have to play by the same rules I do ... we cannot vote if we haven't seen a film. This isn't a guess of what's going to win, it's what you personally would put on the list at this voting stage of the films you've seen; round two only narrows down the long short-list to the shorter-list of 5 votes in each category. I'll assume you've seen the rest on your list; but if not, please revise accordingly.
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| randall |
Posted - 01/01/2007 : 14:32:59
Sorry, haven't seen most of the contenders yet. Since I must trudge through at year end without a Baffy card, DVD time turns out to be my screening time. Absent said card or one similar, it's just too expensive to keep up. |
| ChocolateLady |
Posted - 01/01/2007 : 14:06:01
I don't know much, since I haven't seen that many but from what I hear from everyone, The Departed is a contender to win. But if I have to pick six, I'll go with...
Casino Royale
Departed, The
Pan's Labyrinth
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Queen, The
Volver
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