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| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 01/15/2007 : 02:22:20
Don't forget to either post or pm to me your votes for the Golden Globes winners. Deadline is 6 pm EST, or 11 pm FWFR time. I'll repost the contenders and the votes to date in here.
I will post the nominees and current votes in each category in here as well as the original. If you want, post here or pm me your choice of winners and I'll post the overall choices before the awards on the 15th.
Best Motion Picture Drama:
The Departed - 7
Babel - 0
Bobby - 0
Little Children - 0
The Queen - 0
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama:
Helen Mirren � The Queen - 5
Pen�lope Cruz � Volver - 2
Judi Dench � Notes On A Scandal - 0
Maggie Gyllenhaal � Sherrybaby - 0
Kate Winslet � Little Children - 0
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Drama:
Forest Whitaker � The Last King Of Scotland - 5
Peter O'Toole � Venus - 1
Leonardo DiCaprio � The Departed - 1
Leonardo DiCaprio � Blood Diamond - 0
Will Smith � The Pursuit Of Happyness - 0
Best Motion Picture - Musical Or Comedy:
Dreamgirls - 6
Little Miss Sunshine - 1
Borat: Cultural Learnings Of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation Of Kazakhstan - 0
The Devil Wears Prada - 0
Thank You For Smoking - 0
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy:
TIE: Beyonc� Knowles � Dreamgirls - 3 AND Meryl Streep � The Devil Wears Prada - 3
Annette Bening � Running With Scissors - 1
Toni Collette � Little Miss Sunshine 0
Ren�e Zellweger � Miss Potter 0
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Musical Or Comedy:
TIE: Johnny Depp � Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest - 3 AND Sacha Cohen � Borat: Cultural Learnings Of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation Of Kazakhstan - 3
Will Ferrell � Stranger Than Fiction - 1
Aaron Eckhart � Thank You For Smoking - 0
Chiwetel Ejiofor � Kinky Boots - 0
Best Performance by an Actress In A Supporting Role in a Motion Picture:
Jennifer Hudson � Dreamgirls - 7
Adriana Barraza � Babel - 0
Cate Blanchett � Notes On A Scandal - 0
Emily Blunt � The Devil Wears Prada - 0
Rinko Kikuchi � Babel - 0
Best Performance by an Actor In A Supporting Role in a Motion Picture:
Jack Nicholson � The Departed - 5
Brad Pitt � Babel - 1
Eddie Murphy � Dreamgirls - 1
Ben Affleck � Hollywoodland - 0
Mark Wahlberg � The Departed - 0
Best Animated Feature Film:
Happy Feet - 5
Cars - 1
Monster House - 0
Best Foreign Languge Film:
Letters From Iwo Jima (Japan, United States) - 5
Pan's Labyrinth (Mexico) - 1
Volver (Spain) - 1
Apocalypto (United States) - 0
The Lives Of Others (Germany) - 0
Best Director - Motion Picture:
Martin Scorsese � The Departed - 7
Clint Eastwood � Flags Of Our Fathers - 0
Clint Eastwood � Letters From Iwo Jima - 0
Stephen Frears � The Queen - 0
Alejandro I��rritu � Babel - 0
Best Screenplay - Motion Picture:
Babel - Written by Guillermo Arriaga - 4
The Departed - Written by William Monahan - 3
Little Children - Written by Todd Field, Tom Perrotta - 0
Notes On A Scandal - Written by Patrick Marber - 0
The Queen - Written by Peter Morgan - 0
Original Score - Motion Picture:
Babel - Composed by Gustavo Santaolalla - 3
The Da Vinci Code - Composed by Hans Zimmer - 1
The Painted Veil - Composed by Alexandre Desplat - 0
The Fountain - Composed by Clint Mansell - 0
Nomad - Composed by Carlo Siliotto - 0
Best Original Song - Motion Picture:
"Listen" � Dreamgirls - 5
Music & Lyrics By: Anne Preven, Scott Cutler, Beyonc� Knowles and Henry Krieger
"Never Gonna Break My Faith" � Bobby - 0
Music & Lyrics By: Andrea Remanda, Bryan Adams and Eliot Kennedy
"A Father's Way" � The Pursuit Of Happyness - 0
Music By: Seal and Christopher Bruce
Lyrics By: Seal
"The Song Of The Heart" � Happy Feet - 0
Music & Lyrics By: Prince Rogers Nelson
"Try Not To Remember" � Home Of The Brave - 0
Music & Lyrics By: Sheryl Crow
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| BaftaBaby |
Posted - 01/18/2007 : 12:28:48
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
Best Performance by an Actress in a Mini-Series or a Motion Picture Made for Television: Helen Mirren for Elizabeth I
While it was obviously very satisfying that she got awards for two Queen Elizabeths, which were both very good, how was Elizabeth I eligible? It was repeated a few months ago and was first shown a year before that. Is it just based on when it happens to be on American T.V.?
Yes
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| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 01/18/2007 : 12:09:52
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
Best Performance by an Actress in a Mini-Series or a Motion Picture Made for Television: Helen Mirren for Elizabeth I
While it was obviously very satisfying that she got awards for two Queen Elizabeths, which were both very good, how was Elizabeth I eligible? It was repeated a few months ago and was first shown a year before that. Is it just based on when it happens to be on American T.V.? |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 01/17/2007 : 17:00:30
I didn't mean that NASCAR was why people might like Cars more - just that it might be why others might like it less. The effect of a major road bypassing isolated small community is indeed an interesting part of the story, but that's it's strongest aspect.
Happy Feet is better for all the reasons that C.L. mentioned. I also did not mind the environmental lecture so much, since it is only really heavy at the end and is at a fairly suitable level for young children. |
| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 01/17/2007 : 16:02:19
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
Okay, I don't know if I've been outside the USA too long or not (but trust me, we don't travel around with horses and buggies in Israel), but that had nothing to do with why I thought Happy Feet was a better film.
Oh wait.. I left out the part where the gentlemen farmers who had let their fields lay fallow while they worked at the Piston Ring factory were forced to sell the family farms to an odd and interesting bunch of newcomers to the area, who had both the money to pay cash for the farms and the work ethic to run them. Yes, you guessed it. A group of around 50 Amish moved into our area and bought those farms yearning to produce again. So we are living in the time of the horse and buggy. Six miles north of Interstate Highway 70!!!! I'm not entirely sure, but I think somewhere in the whole story, one would find *gulp* irony!!! |
| ChocolateLady |
Posted - 01/17/2007 : 07:15:13
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Originally posted by turrell
I thought Cars was the superior animated film this year. As I said before it might appeal more strongly to the American sensibility as Cars are an important part of the culture (perhaps Chocky has been out of country too long  ).
Okay, I don't know if I've been outside the USA too long or not (but trust me, we don't travel around with horses and buggies in Israel), but that had nothing to do with why I thought Happy Feet was a better film. Yes, Happy Feet did hit us over the head - repeatedly - about the environmental aspect and that was annoying. Still my criteria is the ANIMATION and the basic concept of WHAT was being animated, and how well they did that. I think it was Bafta who expressed it best - how did those cars make that world without opposable thumbs? I'm willing to stretch my immagination just so far even with animation. But also, the cars themselves looked a bit too... fake, even for an animated film.
Where Happy Feet succeeded better than Cars was that the penguins looked so very, very real and moved like they would in real life (except for their beaks) and were in a real penguin-like environment.
I didn't see Monster House so I don't know if it was good or not.
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| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 01/17/2007 : 05:22:06
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Originally posted by turrell
No - I don't mean the Nascar aspect because 5/6 of the movie is not about NASCAR is about the decline of the small western town along Route 66 and the rise of the mega-highway (or mega corporation or mega-mall or megalo-mart if you will) and how we lose some of our history and charm for the sake of convenience.
Sadly, this is happening more and more. Even here in the middle of Nowhere, Indiana, USA, small towns, like the one in which I live, just fall further and further into the obscurity of the legends on maps. In 1895, my town had approximately 3000 people, a half dozen churchs, 3 grocery stores, it's own water and sewage system, two livery stations, dry goods stores, a train stop with four stops daily and a bustling weekend full of activities.
Fast forward to a few years later, that pesky Wright boy from over at Millville had grown bored with building bicycles so he and his brother had done some silliness with a flying machine. The town population was around 2500, two more churches joined the religious melee, one grocery store closed, Mrs. Abbott had begun making killer candy from recipes passed down through her German family and the dreaded high school bassaball had started to become popular. The train stop whittled down to twice a day and farmers took their produce to the next town over. Sometime around then, a yearly summer's end feast was instituted so that farmers could show off their livestock and their wives could outdo one another with their home baked pies.
By 1954, when the sweetheart bassaball team from Milan (remember the film Hoosiers?) was making news and breaking records, the town population was back up to around 2700, the train didn't stop anymore, and folks went to the local smorgasbord for dinner. But a very successful automobile parts factory - the Perfect Circle Corporation - had opened for business, manufacturing such essential small car parts as piston rings, speedostats (the forerunner of the cruise control) and brake assemblies and employed at least one person from nearly every family in town. This raised the median income in town by roughly 40%. Life was prosperous, every house had a garage for the 2.1 cars per family (equipped with Perfect Circle piston rings, speedostats and PC brakes), and every person in town who wanted a home could afford to buy one, their 2.5 children went to a brand new school and had a killer sports program, especially in bassaball. A Greyhound bus route ran through town 4 times a day, so even the car-less could go to the "city" for shopping. Renaker's 5 and Dime was at its height, and we kids could have all the penny candy the stern but kindly Mr. Renaker could get away with giving us (so long as no one tried to swipe a piece behind his back). The now more prosperous city fathers formed a Lion's Club and began sponsoring the yearly summer's end feast into Jubilee Days. Jubilee Day was cause to block off the entire downtown area from traffic, a small carnival with rides was set up, the Lions had a fish fry and all the money raised from the events and the Jubilee Day Sight Queen contest - won by the girl who collected the most donations/whose daddy put in the most money - went to help the less wealthy kids to buy eyeglasses. (I have yet to ever meet anyone who said the Lions Club bought their glasses.) By the early 1980s, average PC plant wages was close to $18.00 an hour.
Which brings us to today. The sign at the edge of town says "HAGERSTOWN - Home to 2000 happy people!!" I have attempted to picket that sign on several occasions and have threatened to bring a class action civil suit for the absence of truth in advertising, based on the fact that they didn't take a poll regarding the relative happiness, or lack thereof, and the lack of affadavits attesting to that happiness. I know that they certainly didn't ask me if I was happy. The Perfect Circle Piston Ring factory was swallowed up by the large and impersonal Dana Corporation and shortly thereafter doors were closed, leaving the workers who were then making around $25.00 an hour to either retire or move 100 miles away to take an opening at the NEW Dana Plant in Kokomo. The people who stayed behind began to live their 10 cent millionaire lives in quiet desperation, finding their pools cracking, their mortgage rates skyrocketing, their property taxes unmanagable and their retirement funds pilfered. The mysterious powers that be decided to build the important Interstate 70 some 6 miles south of town, just far enough away to leave Hagerstown in relative isolation. Meanwhile, the Hagerstown Utilities company was being cited by the state health department to update their outmoded water treatment facilities. During the glory days of the town, the good founding fathers removed themselves from the auspices of regulated utilities and now found themselves floundering in their arrogance. Water treatment, sewage and electricity rates quadrupled in 3 years, the Boy Scout Lake campsite, home to great adventures by both Boy and Girl Scouts over the years, was closed and quarantined because of the contaminated waters from the Perfect Circle Piston Ring Company, the Greyhound buses stopped running through town and the local high school sports teams began to suck. And here we are today. At the last census, it was discovered that there is now fewer than 2000 people of dubious degrees of happiness, mortgaged and billed to the gills, unable to afford sewer and water bills, backing losing high school sports teams who will never recapture that Milan High School Cinderella victory because the Indiana State High School Athletic Association has adopted the class sports system. The Greyhound buses take the interstate 6 miles to the south, Meals on Wheels delivers to some of the elderly in town (who actually do have a bit of that old PC pension left) but come from Richmond, 15 miles away, to do so.
And it all started with that pesky Wright boy who got tired of building bicycles. Hoo-Yah! I suspect that the animated film Cars gussied the story up and made it pretty.
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| turrell |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 23:15:37
No - I don't mean the Nascar aspect because 5/6 of the movie is not about NASCAR is about the decline of the small western town along Route 66 and the rise of the mega-highway (or mega corporation or mega-mall or megalo-mart if you will) and how we lose some of our history and charm for the sake of convenience.
I really liked Happy Feet too, but I don't see it holding up as well - probably because of so many of the Robin Williams rants which are funny, but haven't we heard them a million times before.
There is something about a Pixar film that elevates it above other films in my opinion, I can't put my finger on it, but Cars had the Pixar magic for me at least and apparently 78 writers of publications no one has ever heard of. |
| silly |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 19:39:12
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
Cars? Cars?? CARS?????
Perhaps they felt the over-the-head pounded environmental message at the end of Happy Feet was too much for Nicole Kidman to overcome? |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 19:30:48
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Originally posted by turrell
I thought Cars was the superior animated film this year. As I said before it might appeal more strongly to the American sensibility as Cars are an important part of the culture (perhaps Chocky has been out of country too long ).
You might be right that the NASCAR aspect may not appeal to others - I think this has something to do with the fact that it is an absolutely rubbish 'sport'.  But the main thing is that Happy Feet is just a much better film.  |
| turrell |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 18:27:54
I thought Cars was the superior animated film this year. As I said before it might appeal more strongly to the American sensibility as Cars are an important part of the culture (perhaps Chocky has been out of country too long ). |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 17:15:35
I agree about Cars - as much as I love Owen Wilson, are they insane?
I'm glad The Departed didn't win - it's all right, but far from the best picture of the year. |
| Montgomery |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 15:33:06
Babel? I guess I'll definitely have to rent that now. I saw the Departed and thought it was a lock, especially after Scorsese won for Director.
I was very excited for Forest Whitaker. I haven't seen that movie yet, but he is a great actor, who has long been overlooked. Leo didn't really need another award.
I also was glad Eddie Murphy won for his role in Dreamgirls. How did the Dreamgirls song, "Listen" not win? That puzzles me.
Hooray for Jennifer Hudson. She was perfect in that role.
EM :)
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| Montgomery |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 15:28:35
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
Cars? Cars?? CARS?????
When I saw your post, I figured you were Sean.
EM :) |
| ChocolateLady |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 07:14:50
Cars? Cars?? CARS????? |
| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 01/16/2007 : 05:52:07
And the Golden Globe goes to:
Best Motion Picture Drama:
Golden Globe Winner: Babel
FWFR Winner: The Departed
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama:
Golden Globe Winner: Helen Mirren, The Queen
FWFR Winner: Helen Mirren, The Queen
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Drama:
Golden Globe Winner: Forest Whitaker � The Last King Of Scotland
Golden Globe Winner: Forest Whitaker � The Last King Of Scotland
Best Motion Picture - Musical Or Comedy:
Golden Globe Winner: Dreamgirls
FWFR Winner: Dreamgirls
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy:
Golden Globe Winner: Meryl Streep - The Devil Wears Prada
FWFR Winner: TIE: Beyonc� Knowles � Dreamgirls AND Meryl Streep � The Devil Wears Prada
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture - Musical Or Comedy:
Golden Globe Winner: Sacha Cohen � Borat: Cultural Learnings Of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation Of Kazakhstan
FWFR Winner: TIE: Johnny Depp � Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest AND Sacha Cohen � Borat: Cultural Learnings Of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation Of Kazakhstan
Best Performance by an Actress In A Supporting Role in a Motion Picture:
Golden Globe Winner: Jennifer Hudson � Dreamgirls
FWFR Winner: Jennifer Hudson � Dreamgirls
Best Performance by an Actor In A Supporting Role in a Motion Picture:
Golden Globe Winner: Eddie Murphy � Dreamgirls
FWFR Winner: Jack Nicholson � The Departed
Best Animated Feature Film:
Golden Globe Winner: Cars
FWFR Winner: Happy Feet
Best Foreign Languge Film:
Golden Globe Winner: Letters From Iwo Jima (Japan, United States)
FWFR Winner: Letters From Iwo Jima (Japan, United States)
Best Director - Motion Picture:
Golden Globe Winner: Martin Scorsese � The Departed
FWFR Winner: Martin Scorsese � The Departed
Best Screenplay - Motion Picture:
Golden Globe Winner: The Queen - Written by Peter Morgan
FWFR Winner: Babel - Written by Guillermo Arriaga
Original Score - Motion Picture:
Golden Globe Winner: The Painted Veil - Composed by Alexandre Desplat
FWFR Winner: Babel - Composed by Gustavo Santaolalla
Best Original Song - Motion Picture:
Golden Globe Winner: "The Song Of The Heart" � Happy Feet
Music & Lyrics By: Prince Rogers Nelson
FWFR Winner: "Listen" � Dreamgirls
Music & Lyrics By: Anne Preven, Scott Cutler, Beyonc� Knowles and Henry Krieger
OTHER WINNERS
Best Television Series, Drama: Grey's Anatomy
Best Performance by an Actress in a Television Series - Musical or Comedy: America Ferrera for Ugly Betty
Best Television Series - Musical or Comedy: Winner: Ugly Betty
Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series - Musical or Comedy: Alec Baldwin for 30 Rock
Best Performance by an Actress in a Mini-Series or a Motion Picture Made for Television: Helen Mirren for Elizabeth I
Best Performance by an Actor in a Mini-Series or a Motion Picture Made for Television: Bill Nighy for Gideon's Daughter
Best Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television: Elizabeth I
Best Performance by an Actor in a Television Series - Drama: Hugh Laurie for House M.D.
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television: Emily Blunt for Gideon's Daughter
Best Performance by an Actress in a Television Series - Drama: Kyra Sedgwick for The Closer
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television: Jeremy Irons for Elizabeth I
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