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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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 Posted - 02/23/2012 : 10:59:28
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Originally posted by Seán
Four Your Consideration - Treasure Hunt
Seán Says: Don't breathe too deeply lest you catch the lurgy
 Put any five reviews you like in your F.Y.C. list.
 Do not use reviews from the previous round - you must change them every round.
 Post here to declare that you've done it. Sooner is better than later.
 Provide a spoiler warning in your post when appropriate.
 You must read the F.Y.C.s of all participants.
 The next round starts on Monday or Thursday at 6:00 a.m. FWFR time, whichever comes next.
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Larry 
"Larry's time / sat merrily"
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w22dheartlivie 
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 02/23/2012 : 13:00:01
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:) Yeah, I *know* most of you have already seen and had opportunity to vote on this selection, but we have several new or returning fwiffers for whom I'd like to revisit the glory days, so to make a variation on a quote from Rocky Horror Picture Show:
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clay 
"Viewer discretion is revised."
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lemmycaution
"Long mired in film"
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randall
"I like to watch."
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[matt] 
"Cinemattic."
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Posted - 02/23/2012 : 17:11:13
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Some bloody, cool reviews for you to plant some big, wet votes on.
Drew Barrymore pretends to be a high school student in Never Been Kissed.
Round Ireland with a Fridge is the true story of a comedian who took his refrigerator hitchhiking around the country for a month.
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demonic
"Cinemaniac"
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Posted - 02/24/2012 : 02:45:51
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Swingin' 60s
NB:
In "The Apartment" Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacClaine play a lot of the card game Gin Rummy.
Audrey Hepburn finds a new man and a fortune in "Charade".
In "The Train" the Nazi's are attempting to move looted art out of France to Germany including a large number of Impressionist paintings.
Samuel Beckett's "Film" has no dialogue.
A slang term for a musical theatre actor is a "turn". |
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GHcool
"Forever a curious character."
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 02/24/2012 : 11:25:34
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Back from the doctor - not dying, but not exactly perky ... which has nothing to do with these little beauties 
Didja know - this 1908 version of Merchant of Venice is widely accepted a the very first colored film -- every frame given the hand treatment. Wow!
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 02/24/2012 : 14:57:25
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
Didja know - this 1908 version of Merchant of Venice is widely accepted a the very first colored film -- every frame given the hand treatment. Wow!
What about A TRIP TO THE MOON (1902)? Didja see HUGO? And it wasn't the only hand-colored Melies, either. Was this a common treatment at the turn of the century? |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 02/25/2012 : 11:13:26
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quote:
Originally posted by randall
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe
Didja know - this 1908 version of Merchant of Venice is widely accepted a the very first colored film -- every frame given the hand treatment. Wow!
What about A TRIP TO THE MOON (1902)? Didja see HUGO? And it wasn't the only hand-colored Melies, either. Was this a common treatment at the turn of the century?
Hi
Forgive my not not-so-prompt reply ... have been laid up in bed with a high fever. I guess the first thing to say is that my review works whatever the explanation since it just states an indisputable fact. If you visit this page you'll see stills from the film.
Anyway - yes, there's lots of confusion about which was the first color technique. Hugo, which has become one of my favorite films of all time certainly pays tribute to Melies, but is not a bio-pic. Scorsese has conflated several unsung heroes of pre-1920s cinema.
Both Blackton and Melies had up and down fortunes in the industry, which in America was controlled to a great extent by Edison. His stanglehold on most of the related patents resulted in the formation in 1908 of the Motion Picture Patents Company MPPC which eventually forced the NY/NJ based film studio entrepreneurs to flee to California. Not for the weather - a bonus when they arrived - but because Edison had hired the Pinkerton Officers to threaten and harass any film producers not in Edison's employ, and to smash or confiscate their equipment.
Edison, along with Carl Laemmele et al also indulged in a spot of film piracy - which was responsible for Melies moving to America to keep an eye on his prodigious productions. Less known is that Melies himself had swashed his buckle, pilfering from his rivals the Lumiere Brothers.
Both Blackton and Melies were theatrical showmen, both with a penchant for magic, and both fascinated by the possibilities of film illusion. It is true that Melies sold both black and white and color verions of a Trip to the Moon, but what isn't clear is how soon after the film was completed was the hand-tinting applied.
There were no actual credits on the film and it wasn't until earlier this century that a full copy of the tinted film was discovered - I believe somewhere in rural England.
What's clear is that the early color experiments weren't that much of a draw to either the nickolodeon or theatrical audiences, because neither Melies nor Blackton made a habit of transforming their black and white films.
Anyway - perhaps those who credit Blackton with being the first to tint mean the first in America. But, as I say, none of this invalidates my review.
But thanks for the opportunity to distract me from my febrile state to address one of my favorite subjects.
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lemmycaution
"Long mired in film"
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 02/25/2012 : 18:06:52
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Originally posted by lemmycaution
This IMDb entry suggests that a 1896 film was hand coloured:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0205490/
And so it may be, but as you well know those synopses are written by imdb users. And that listing has absolutely no reference. If you can find any corroborative evidence, do please let us know. It's in none of my hefty shelf of film history books and I can find nothing online.
The main point, of course, is that my review still stands. So all you are quibbling about is my explanation. Which may or may not be accurate, but is after all irrelevant.
So I'm not quite sure what your point is. Not that Wikipedia is gospel, but in their extensive article on American Mutascope, neither the film nor color is mentioned. Nor does noted film historian Paul Rotha identify any specific film as being the first tinted offering.
And so again I say, the main point, of course, is that my review still stands. Is anyone challenging that?
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