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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/07/2006 :  15:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Chased" is fine, but "chased away" isn't. The whole point is that the truck driver relentlessly pursues him, and without apparent motive. Chasing him away would be to quickly frighten him away from a specific place. And I don't think artistic licence spreads as far as blurring whether there are one or multiple people. If artistic licence goes that far, you may as well have "Chasing the 'Cloud's, aweigh" (with the assumption that it is immaterial as to whether it is a large truck or a large ship, and saying that something belonging to McCloud, or "the 'Cloud" is what is being chased).
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Catuli 
"Loves Film and Fun"

Posted - 11/07/2006 :  17:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure how constructive it is to delve into the penumbrations of word choice or meaning. Next we'll debate how many MERPS can dance on the head of a pin. Furthermore, the review I cited is nothing I take great pride in, I was simply tossing it out as an example. However, there are infinitely more clever reviews failing the plot accuracy threshold that have been upheld for their wordplay artistry. Hint, check out one for the movie about Tiger Woods.

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Catuli 
"Loves Film and Fun"

Posted - 11/07/2006 :  18:00:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A quick follow up. Come on Salopian, "Chasing the McCloud's, aweigh" isn't even grammatical. I'm completely capable of being ungrammatical on my own, thank you

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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 11/07/2006 :  22:20:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catuli

As to modifying "McClouds" to "McCloud", come on guys, it's a pun. A certain amount of license, or leeway, is allowed to let a title scale.
Well that's up to benj, it's his site. This isn't the "Four word convoluted pseudo-pun-on-anything with incorrect statements film review". It's the Four Word Film Review. Here we write.... four word film reviews (or summaries). Nobody said it's easy to write a specific, correct, original fwfr that also contains a joke/gag/pun. It's actually damn difficult. Allowing people to make false statements simply so they can slide a pun into a review would quickly fill the site with piles of unintelligible chaff, not to mention the difficulty of defining how 'incorrect' false statements are allowed to be. If saying there are two or more McClouds is acceptable for Duel then it would open the floodgates.

Your McCloud review has potential but you haven't finished the review. Options are to take some advice offered by others above, or perhaps do various searches at IMDb to find a movie that the review fits. E.g., a movie where a family of McClouds are actually chased away.

The hardest work I put into reviewing was 2004 when I wrote about 160 reviews in a year, which average about 16 votes / review, and I'd guess they took an hour each to create. But I also ended up with a long list of half-finished reviews that I wasn't able to find a movie for. I.e., puns on well-known expressions that I've worked on with rhyme-generators/dictionaries etc but haven't been able to fit them to a movie. I never saw any point in submitting them for movies that they "kind of fit if you ignore the factual errors" as it totally defeats the purpose of the site, which is to review films in four words.
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Montgomery 
"F**k!"

Posted - 11/07/2006 :  22:26:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

quote:
Originally posted by Catuli

As to modifying "McClouds" to "McCloud", come on guys, it's a pun. A certain amount of license, or leeway, is allowed to let a title scale.
Well that's up to benj, it's his site. This isn't the "Four word convoluted pseudo-pun-on-anything with incorrect statements film review".


That's a completely different site. And I'm not telling you guys the web address, because I currently have the top number of reviews.

EM :)
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 11/07/2006 :  22:44:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Em, if I promise to rig the US election in favour of the Democrats, will you give me the address? I might finally get a home for all my unfinished reviews!
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Catuli 
"Loves Film and Fun"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  02:41:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really, it's Benji's site? Well, actually I did have a "Clews" about that. Hmmm, does that qualify as a pseudo pun? Is the "s" confusing? I hardly need to be lectured on how to write reviews. If you check my work you'll note that I've created a fair amount of reviews in a short time. Back to the review at hand. "McClouds" can be defended, as one being an archetype for the many, and "chased away" can be defended, as the poor shmuck is being chased away from the road. The revised title that Sean advanced does fit any number of fwfr entries, and one need not risk eyestrain in finding them. If one wants to do the connotation fandango, as I stated, you can find a good example of an inaccurate review among those for the movie about Tiger Woods.

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randall 
"I like to watch."

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  03:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Catuli [Gesundheit!], I will reference my previous post. This site is subjective. It is not fair. With a quarter million reviews, it isn't even consistent. My advice: live with these facts, and accept constructive criticism when it's offered, especially when you asked for it to be offered.
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Catuli 
"Loves Film and Fun"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  04:09:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Randall, as I stated, I'm not at all distraught over my "Duel" review being declined. If I were obsessed with accumulating reviews I wouldn't have voluntarily dumped my highest scoring review when I found out it was a near duplicate of Pope Ringo's. I'm genuinely puzzled over why my review was declined while others were accepted. While some have proferred explanations, I don't think I'm obligated to agree with those explanations. Conversely there are instances when I was surprised to have had a review of mine accepted. Indeed, I initiated the topic, but as Hemingway once observed, a good writer should have an "automatic built in BS detector." (perhaps that's a slight paraphrase

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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  07:16:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've got it:

Chasing McCloud, a ways!
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  08:56:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catuli

A quick follow up. Come on Salopian, "Chasing the McCloud's, aweigh" isn't even grammatical. I'm completely capable of being ungrammatical on my own, thank you

That was kind of my point, although it is a convention that separate things can be divided by commas here, so it is O.K. in that sense.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  09:17:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catuli

Really, it's Benji's site?

Actually, it's Benj.
quote:
"McClouds" can be defended, as one being an archetype for the many, and "chased away" can be defended, as the poor shmuck is being chased away from the road.

Um, I really don't see it, especially on the first count.

If there are other inaccurate reviews, use the 'Report' feature. Approved reviews can only be used as precedents for other reviews if they are somehow equivalent.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  09:17:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

I've got it:

Chasing McCloud, a ways!

Um, didn't I sort of suggest that one?
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  10:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

I've got it:

Chasing McCloud, a ways!

Um, didn't I sort of suggest that one?



Not exactly, adding the 's' after way means that there is more than one way that he's chased, and the slang "a ways" referrs to the path part.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/08/2006 :  10:31:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nah, I think "a ways" is just a variant of "a way".
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