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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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 Posted - 12/11/2006 : 10:23:53
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I noticed the gaps here - my guess is that these are there on purpose.
Well, 2006 is almost over and 2007 is another year. Personally, I'm looking forward to Ratatouille. What the trailer suggests is that except for the rats talking, and in English no less (they live in France), the rest of their world is realistic - which is a return to Pixar's formula (which they unfortunately broke with for Cars).
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 12/11/2006 : 11:08:19
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
Well, 2006 is almost over and 2007 is another year. Personally, I'm looking forward to Ratatouille. What the trailer suggests is that except for the rats talking, and in English no less (they live in France), the rest of their world is realistic - which is a return to Pixar's formula (which they unfortunately broke with for Cars).
Yes, I like cartoons to be that way too, which is one of the reasons I liked Happy Feet so much - tap-dancing etc. is not exactly realistic, but their environment and bodyshapes (other than the female penguins slightly having an hourglass figure, which I didn't think was needed) etc. are naturalistic. |
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 12/15/2006 : 00:51:05
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Originally posted by Salopian
I've never seen any anime, except for clips. I think I'd enjoy it fine, but I'm not drawn to watch it to the degree that would be expected, given how strongly some people recommend it. I don't so much go for cartoons for the comedy as for their touching quality.
Then you should definitely watch something from Studio Ghibli. Whereas US/UK animation is usually animated in order to do things that aren't possible without animation (can anyone imagine trying to make Toy Story or Finding Nemo with live actors?  ), Japanese movie makers see animation as simply an alternative method of making a movie, i.e., by drawing it instead of using live actors and constructing movie sets. This also gives them a level of absolute control over all details that they don't have with live actors and physical sets, hence the emotional impact of animation can be more profound - yes this can be hard to believe but it's true, I didn't believe it until I watched Grave of the Fireflies.
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Plus of course I like the animation itself - standard film, however artistic, is really only slightly different from the real world, and usually less beautiful.
Studio Ghibli's artistry is sublime and legendary (with good reason). E.g., the warm glow of afternoon sunlight on terracotta in the Mediterranean, or the eerie glow of a streetlamp as seen from under an umbrella and it's effect on the falling raindrops - and it's all painted. Japanese watercolour was famous long before they got into movie-making, and their skills have gone into their movies.quote:
Perhaps that is a reason why anime grabs me less - I expect you will disagree, but all the characters look the same to me.
If you've only seen clips, then I can understand why you see it that way. I've never been emotionally grabbed by a movie clip, there isn't time.
Of the IMDb Top 50 animated movies, 23 are Japanese. 13 of Studio Ghibli's 15 movies are in the Top 50, including 4 in the top 8. So yeah, people love this stuff. 
If you haven't seen any anime, all I can say is.... you should! My guess is you'll wonder why it took you so long. Here are a couple of recommendations, only the first one is fantasy, the rest are human dramas, i.e., no magic or talking animals etc:-
Spirited Away - fantasy, but emotionally involving and profound.
Whisper of the Heart - romantic drama, sophisticated, subtle and engaging.
Only Yesterday - profound introspective personal drama.
Grave of the Fireflies - war from the perspective of a couple of kids. Warning:- this is utterly devastating, I was a complete wreck after watching this.
One other thing I should mention is that Ghibli's scores are excellent and varied. E.g., stuff they've had composed, or 1920's Italian opera, or Hungarian gypsy pieces etc etc. They take their movie-making as seriously as anyone anywhere, with fanatical dedication to detail.  |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 06:28:38
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| Well, I finally got to see this movie. Gotta say that it was lots of fun and that the animation was wonderful, songs were great too. But you know, I think the message was put over a bit on the heavy handed side (more like it just fell short of slapping us in the face with it, actually). That part of the film was a disappointment but otherwise, it was fun. Not sure if I'll be buying the DVD of this one but perhaps the soundtrack. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 00:53:40
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
I think the message was put over a bit on the heavy handed side (more like it just fell short of slapping us in the face with it, actually).
You're right, but then it is for children! An Inconvenient Truth spends a lot longer telling the audience what most normal people have known for a decade or two! |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 11:11:36
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
I think the message was put over a bit on the heavy handed side (more like it just fell short of slapping us in the face with it, actually).
You're right, but then it is for children! An Inconvenient Truth spends a lot longer telling the audience what most normal people have known for a decade or two!
Yes, but... I'm thinking that the kids who would watch this aren't as stupid as adults think they are. |
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 23:23:14
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I don't think my kids "got" a message. They just thought the dancing penguins were cool.
(when I asked them just now about how the movie ended, they said that he went home. That was about it) |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 07:38:24
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Originally posted by silly
I don't think my kids "got" a message. They just thought the dancing penguins were cool.
(when I asked them just now about how the movie ended, they said that he went home. That was about it)
Ah... I went with an adult and there weren't any kids in the theatre with us (because we saw the English version, not the Hebrew dubbed one).
Still... if a hammer on the head isn't going to get the message through to kids, and a more subtle message works at least with the adults, why use the hammer?
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randall 
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 10/28/2007 : 19:40:34
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| Just caught it on pay cable. This is what every computer-animated movie wishes it could be. Magnificent, Pixar-level story and execution. |
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duh
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 10/28/2007 : 22:22:35
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Originally posted by Sal8pian
A good thing I had forgotten to mention is that the main (sort of) bad penguin has a Scottish accent. In American films, having a Scottish accent seems to be an almost universal sign that a character is in the right, so it's nice to have a change.
Fat Bastard is another such notable exception. |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 10/28/2007 : 23:23:42
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The Adelies were my favourites. I liked the way they made the 'kids' of the penguin family into the playful ones in this movie. Adelies are the ones that climb up icebergs just for the fun of diving off them, so they can swim around, climb up and dive off again. The Adelies in this movie were also playful characters.
I wished the baby ones were babies for longer. They were so cute.  |
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thefoxboy
"Four your eyes only."
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Posted - 10/29/2007 : 22:13:05
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I just don't get anything out of computer animated/Pixar movies.
I did watch this one a few weeks ago and found it  .
I have fallen asleep during the first Shrek, Incredibles, Robots & just switched Monsters Inc off.
I guess I will have to learn to watch these movies when thefoxcub gets a little older. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 10/30/2007 : 09:32:58
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Originally posted by thef8xb8y
I guess I will have to learn to watch these movies when thefoxcub gets a little older.
Or just brainwash him into preferring the old classics! |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 10/30/2007 : 10:38:21
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Originally posted by Sal8pian
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Originally posted by thef8xb8y
I guess I will have to learn to watch these movies when thefoxcub gets a little older.
Or just brainwash him into preferring the old classics!
That's not hard to do. I insisted on buying all the old Disney classics and playing them for my kids, even before they could understand anything. When I took my daughter to Disney Paris for her Bat Mitzvah (age 12) she knew almost all of the characters - only the ones from the TV cartoons were lost on her (Chip & Dale, for instance). As the cub gets older and into what he's watching, you'll like these movies more.
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thefoxboy
"Four your eyes only."
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Posted - 10/30/2007 : 21:42:24
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Yep, I already have purchased 6 or 7 Disney classics when they have been on special. I'm actually looking forward to watching these as I have never really seen them before. Italian parents migrating to a new country with 5 children had better things to spend their money on than seeing a movie.
This reminds me of when I was in grade 2, I wasn't really speaking any English and I landed the part of Hansel , what was the teaching thinking? I just stood there, not knowing what the hell was going on. Why would I want to get into that oven for anyway? |
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Happy Feet (contains slight spoilers)
