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MisterBadIdea 
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 Posted - 10/16/2007 : 18:43:54
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What bothered me about this film most was that we don't actually understand why the world is so filled with all these refugees - that is, until close to the end of the film.
I thought it was pretty obvious -- the rest of the world has gone to shit and Britain is the only place that's been able to keep some semblance of sanity. And I don't think it needs to be explained why the rest of the world has gone to shit; more of a question is how Britain was able to keep it together, albeit barely. |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 21:17:31
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
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What bothered me about this film most was that we don't actually understand why the world is so filled with all these refugees - that is, until close to the end of the film.
I thought it was pretty obvious -- the rest of the world has gone to shit and Britain is the only place that's been able to keep some semblance of sanity. And I don't think it needs to be explained why the rest of the world has gone to shit; more of a question is how Britain was able to keep it together, albeit barely.
Actually, all we know is that PART of the world has gone to shit and that Britain has maintained some level of sanity. What parts? Well, the places where the refugees are coming from. We saw a government propaganda film on the bus that SAYS the entire rest of the world has fallen apart, but that doesn't mean it's true. |
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Downtown
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 21:18:52
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
It also occurs to me that this is a very anti-religion movie. On the one hand, there are hints that religious fanatacism is what caused the wars, ruin and destruction. But the various cults that they refer to that are popping up are made to look like desparate people clutching at straws. Those same cults seem to be blaming the world's infertility on a lack of faith and that this medical situation is basically God's wrath. Yet, if a lack of religion caused the procreation to end, but zealots are destroying civilization, and a middle ground will not appease anyone, then what is left?
"My Kingdom is not of this Earth." |
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MisterBadIdea
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Posted - 10/24/2007 : 21:57:22
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Yet, if a lack of religion caused the procreation to end, but zealots are destroying civilization, and a middle ground will not appease anyone, then what is left?
I'm not sure what ChocolateLady is asking here, or from whose perspective she's asking it, but I don't believe the filmmakers buy into all the premises of the question, especially the first one. I don't think we're supposed to believe that lack of religion killed all the babies. |
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 10/25/2007 : 07:25:34
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
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Yet, if a lack of religion caused the procreation to end, but zealots are destroying civilization, and a middle ground will not appease anyone, then what is left?
I'm not sure what ChocolateLady is asking here, or from whose perspective she's asking it, but I don't believe the filmmakers buy into all the premises of the question, especially the first one. I don't think we're supposed to believe that lack of religion killed all the babies.
No, that's not what I meant. On the one hand there is a hint that religious fanatacism is behind the distruction that is causing people to flee their countries. On the other hand, we see people being told at a rally that the reason for the world's infertility is devine retribution for the world's loss of faith (and it seems people are beginning to believe this could be true, since there are all these cults popping up). My question is - if a loss of religion has been as equally destructive as religious fanatacism, with no middle ground seemingly possible - what can help these people here?
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Demisemicenturian
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Posted - 10/25/2007 : 12:51:22
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| I don't remember the rally, but it sounds as though a religious fanatic is saying that. The film presumably isn't agreeing. |
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Downtown
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Posted - 10/25/2007 : 15:33:28
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
My question is - if a loss of religion has been as equally destructive as religious fanatacism, with no middle ground seemingly possible - what can help these people here?
That was my point. All that "destruction" you see is here on Earth, and many of the most fanatic religious followers believe that's irrelevant, because it simply doesn't matter what happens on Earth. |
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 10/26/2007 : 17:29:10
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I think anytime you are dealing with childbirth questions, you cannot entirely remove the religious questions.
That's why this movie is so powerful, to me.
It's that "bigger question" stuff, you know, what's six times nine and all that.
Why do we humans exist if we can't create little humans to follow in our footsteps? Why not just blow everything up? What's stopping us from blowing everything up right now?
I love these types of ponderings.
Has anybody read White Plague, by Frank Herbert? (Dune, among other little books he wrote) Same questions, in a way, just approached differently (in Plague it was a deliberate act by a single rather pissed off man that put mankind on the brink of extinction) |
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