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Mr Savoir Faire 
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 Posted - 03/11/2007 : 21:54:59
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Overall, I enjoyed it. The stylized action was entertaining. The dialogue was so-so, but better than expected for this type of film.
My problems with the film: sex/oracle scenes were completely unnecessary, dialogue was cheesy in places (especially those involving the queen), and the historical inaccuracies of the persians attacking with rhinos and elephants, Leonidas not rotating the front lines, and the size of the Persian army and the fact that all the greeks left. Actually 700 greeks stayed behind, for a total of 1000 non-retreating forces.
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rabid kazook 
"Pushing the antelope"
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Posted - 03/11/2007 : 22:35:16
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Originally posted by Mr Stupid
My problems with the film: sex scenes were completely unnecessary
Oh, for the sake of Yaphet Kotto's pants, no! 
Let me guess, they've tryed to make it uber-cool. I guess nobody did learn out of Reloaded.
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 03/19/2007 : 23:17:43
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i drove my son back to college last night and overheard another student in his dorm's lobby say 300 is the best movie ever.
lighten up, dude. ever heard of "The Godafther," "2001," "Psycho?"
i'm going to see it, mainly because i read Frank Millers' serial, which inspired the film, years ago. i'm not a big fan of the green-screen filmmaking. |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 03/20/2007 : 00:13:52
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Very good movie. I'm not a fan of green-screening when it comes to things like Matrix Reloaded which are obviously fake, but 300 elevates the fakeness and artificiality into something more abstract.
Its most significant flaw is that I'm not sure whether Leonides and his crew are supposed to be heroes or anti-heroes. The Spartans kill diplomats and practice eugenics, but also are noble crusaders for freedom. Are they good guys or cool bad guys, I don't know, the moral stance is muddled. |
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roger_thornhill 
"'scuse me while I disappear..."
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Posted - 03/20/2007 : 14:07:57
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Originally posted by damalc
i drove my son back to college last night and overheard another student in his dorm's lobby say 300 is the best movie ever.
lighten up, dude. ever heard of "The Godafther," "2001," "Psycho?"
i'm going to see it, mainly because i read Frank Millers' serial, which inspired the film, years ago. i'm not a big fan of the green-screen filmmaking.
I don't like green-screen movies or Frank "misogynist" Miller. |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 03/20/2007 : 14:30:13
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 03/20/2007 : 15:40:07
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I liked the flute playing goat in Xerxes's opium den.
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Shiv
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 03/20/2007 : 16:49:40
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Originally posted by Ali
I liked the flute playing goat in Xerxes's opium den.
Yup, I've definitely got to see it |
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 14:45:55
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Lots of people are reading 300 as about the war in Iraq. That's a crappy metaphor, and I'm sick of it. While the noble heroes of Sparta were clearly heroes designed by the ideals of straight white male conservatives, the Persians make a piss-poor substitute for modern-day terrorists. Like Sparta, it makes a much better substitute for America. The Persians seem to be motivated by arrogance and their vast numbers, and uh, like it or not, America is not the plucky underdog in the current battle.
300 is not pro-America. It is pro-war. I believe an Iraqi insurgent could watch it and feel much the same pride and identify with the heroes as much as an American soldier could. Granted, a Muslim fundamentalist might have trouble with the whole women's rights thing, just like Americans might have trouble with all that newborn-killin'. But for the most part, I think my point stands. This is a simple Us vs. Them story; the only real value this movie upholds is the value of foreigners should not be running our lives. |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 14:55:20
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It's on my list for this week -- yikes!  , along with Amazing Grace, Meet the Robinsons, and Mr Bean's Holiday.
The 300 trailer makes it look formulaic and uninspired, but we'll see ...
Meanwhile, if I recall my history lessons correctly, I always thought the Spartans were judged as morally inferior to the more refined Athenians, whose ethos allowed them to consider solutions other than war to socio-political problems. Or should I forget all that and just try to enjoy the sfx?!!
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 14:57:01
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| Well the Spartans sure didn't see themselves inferior! And it's through their eyes we're watching this movie. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 17:14:56
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Lots of people are reading 300 as about the war in Iraq.
What people?
I've heard about Iranian-American groups whining about it, making the ridiculous claim that it's anti-Iranian propaganda, but this is the first I've heard that it's anti-Iraq or pro-American or pro-the-Iraq-war or whatever. The Iranian complaints are absurd but at least grounded in reality. I don't see any logical connection between this "movie" - which was really just a collection of greased-up underwear models giving endless "St. Crispin's Day" speeches - and the war in Iraq. Which side represents whom? I have no idea! |
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Mr Savoir Faire
"^ Click my name. "
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 18:12:53
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Originally posted by Downtown
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Lots of people are reading 300 as about the war in Iraq.
What people?
I've heard about Iranian-American groups whining about it, making the ridiculous claim that it's anti-Iranian propaganda, but this is the first I've heard that it's anti-Iraq or pro-American or pro-the-Iraq-war or whatever. The Iranian complaints are absurd but at least grounded in reality. I don't see any logical connection between this "movie" - which was really just a collection of greased-up underwear models giving endless "St. Crispin's Day" speeches - and the war in Iraq. Which side represents whom? I have no idea!
I don't think the complaints are snesible. It's like watching saving private Ryan and complaining that the villains are German.
The film creators have said that there is no connection between this and the war in Iraq, nor does it make sense that there would be.
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MM0rkeleb
"Better than HBO."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 18:13:31
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Originally posted by Downtown
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Lots of people are reading 300 as about the war in Iraq.
What people?
I've heard about Iranian-American groups whining about it, making the ridiculous claim that it's anti-Iranian propaganda, but this is the first I've heard that it's anti-Iraq or pro-American or pro-the-Iraq-war or whatever. The Iranian complaints are absurd but at least grounded in reality. I don't see any logical connection between this "movie" - which was really just a collection of greased-up underwear models giving endless "St. Crispin's Day" speeches - and the war in Iraq. Which side represents whom? I have no idea!
I saw a story about it in the NY Times. At a press junket a reporter asked Zack Snyder (the so-called director ) "Is George Bush Leonidas or Xerxes?" Mr. Snyder apparently had no answer, for the obvious reason that 300 has nothing to do with Iraq (but of course you already knew that).
As for the movie itself ... my reaction is a healthy 'meh.' Pretty pictures, and I always like a little action, but there's nothing special here. I did appreciate the excessive use of slo-mo in the battle scenes, however. Though it did get kind of old, I also appreciated being able to tell what the heck is going on, which I usually can't in today's action sequences.
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damalc
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 19:30:50
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Originally posted by george_kaplan
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Originally posted by damalc
i drove my son back to college last night and overheard another student in his dorm's lobby say 300 is the best movie ever.
lighten up, dude. ever heard of "The Godafther," "2001," "Psycho?"
i'm going to see it, mainly because i read Frank Millers' serial, which inspired the film, years ago. i'm not a big fan of the green-screen filmmaking.
I don't like green-screen movies or Frank "misogynist" Miller.
Frank Miller a misogynist? i really don't see that and i've read a ton of Frank Miller. if your only experience with Miller the "Sin City" movie, i can see how he gets that tag. i'd disagree but i'd understand.
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