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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 03/30/2007 :  21:48:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nearly all of Kafka's work was unfinished apparently, in terms of unfinished chapters or sections within the novels, but I'm pretty sure the end of "The Trial" as it stands is the ending he had in mind - there are no answers as to why K is on trial, the same as there are no explicit answers why Gregor Samsa has his unusual experience. For such a brilliant writer it amazes me that he wanted all his manuscripts destroyed when he died, and thankful that his friend and editor decided against it.
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chazbo 
"Outta This Fuckin' Place"

Posted - 03/31/2007 :  02:42:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Koli

quote:
Originally posted by chazbo

Ah, Welles.

Not sure how familiar you may be with this film.

It's Orson Welles' surreal adaptation of Kafka's unfinished novel, so it begins as such but Welles adds his own ending to it.

Anthony Perkins plays K, a man charged and summoned to court for some unknown crime. He spends his time trying (and failing) to find out what and why.





Are you sure the novel was unfinished? I read it six months ago and it seemed to have a proper ending.

SPOILER AHEAD

According to the trivia for the film on IMDb, Orson Welles changed the ending (in the novel the lying K is killed with the knife) because he did not want to show that a Jew is killed like this after the holocaust.



Koli, thanks for pointing that out. It's been a while since I read the book and saw the film, and although The Trial is indeed unfinished (it was published after Kafka's death and there have been disputes about fragments, chapter ordering, etc.), it does have an ending that was altered by Welles for the film version. In writing my comments above, I confused The Trial with The Castle, which is an unfinished work that doesn't have a 'proper' ending.

The 'Begins Kafka, ends Welles' review is still applicable to the movie, though.

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Koli 
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."

Posted - 03/31/2007 :  18:16:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Talking of endings, shall we conclude this little exercise on Wednesday evening (21.00 FWFR time) to coincide with other contest deadlines?

That could be the time by which we all need to work out which of our multi-reviews scored best. Then the one with the highest score - no cheating, now - would start the next round. (Remember, it's not just your conscience you need to worry about; benj can check your figures even more easily than Santa can spot your indiscretions.)

Edit: fiddled about with to bring it back to Active Topics

Edited by - Koli on 04/02/2007 22:31:28
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Koli 
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."

Posted - 03/31/2007 :  18:21:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chazbo



The 'Begins Kafka, ends Welles' review is still applicable to the movie, though.





quote:
Originally posted by demonic

Nearly all of Kafka's work was unfinished apparently, in terms of unfinished chapters or sections within the novels, but I'm pretty sure the end of "The Trial" as it stands is the ending he had in mind - there are no answers as to why K is on trial, the same as there are no explicit answers why Gregor Samsa has his unusual experience. For such a brilliant writer it amazes me that he wanted all his manuscripts destroyed when he died, and thankful that his friend and editor decided against it.



I agree with both of those sentiments. Sometimes dying wishes are begging to be ignored.
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  13:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Voted on all your spreads,

My Highest

Island, The 2005 Clones brave New World. 4 new votes.
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lemmycaution 
"Long mired in film"

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  14:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been through them all. Two votes each for my three All About Eve reviews. It was a bumpy night.
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Tori 
"I don't get it...."

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  16:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do we find out which movie we have the most reviews for?
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Koli 
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  16:44:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's my results (all for Wimbledon [2004]):
Dunst risks being seeded. 19 (5)
Bettany nets ball-breaker. 12 (5)
Wimbledon improved by shower. 11 (3)
Dunst desires grand slam. 10 (2)

Total number of votes appears first, then in brackets the number of new ones.

In my case the first two tied for most votes, though the Bettany one made the biggest percentage increase. Thanks all who voted.
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  01:34:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't remember now! I think 4 or 5 votes for each review?
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chazbo 
"Outta This Fuckin' Place"

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  03:14:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My highest was 4 for 'Begins Kafka, ends Welles'.

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Yukon 
"Co-editor of FWFR book"

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  04:03:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the most I had was 3 new votes.
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  06:44:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
VOTES FOR DRACULA: all started out at zero
Count Frank's teeth sank. = 2

Frank's fangs and bangs. = 5

Langella's allure: bloody biting. = 3






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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  10:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bafta and Koli battle it out so far!!
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Koli 
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  09:18:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bafta's is now up to 6, so I'm ready to concede.
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 04/07/2007 :  10:19:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Koli

Bafta's is now up to 6, so I'm ready to concede.



You're a gent and no mistake.
Uhm ... do I win a trip to Rio

How's about I post a new round on Tuesday, in case everyone else isn't glued to their 'puters over the holiday w/e?

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