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Josh the cat 
"ice wouldn't melt, you'd think ....."

Posted - 04/13/2007 :  19:06:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Tori

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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
(By the way, I'm not sure about "Towers: Two of Them" because, to tell you the truth, I don't remember seeing any towers in that damned boring movie. Perhaps they showed up during my 2 hour nap in the middle.)





Ha ha, you too? I think I was pregnant when we went to see it and exhausted enough already but I totally conked out. Eventually after DH insisted we watch the series five million times I came to like it enough.



What a wise man DH is.

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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 04/13/2007 :  20:11:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's definitely my least favourite of the three (bearing in mind I love the first one, and really like the last), because, well nothing really happens - they're having a wander toward Mordor at the beginning and they're doing the same at the end. It's pretty much worth it for the fantastic dual performance by Andy Serkis though.

But to my memory there are actually more than two towers in the film.
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 04/14/2007 :  01:51:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Tori

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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
(By the way, I'm not sure about "Towers: Two of Them" because, to tell you the truth, I don't remember seeing any towers in that damned boring movie. Perhaps they showed up during my 2 hour nap in the middle.)





Ha ha, you too? I think I was pregnant when we went to see it and exhausted enough already but I totally conked out. Eventually after DH insisted we watch the series five million times I came to like it enough.



I have for some reason been unable to sit through any of the three (on DVD) without falling asleep. I've tried a couple of times and have come to the conclusion its not the quality of the films but some freaky sound wave effect that's soporific for some people
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Tori 
"I don't get it...."

Posted - 04/14/2007 :  03:55:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Shiv

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Originally posted by Tori

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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
(By the way, I'm not sure about "Towers: Two of Them" because, to tell you the truth, I don't remember seeing any towers in that damned boring movie. Perhaps they showed up during my 2 hour nap in the middle.)





Ha ha, you too? I think I was pregnant when we went to see it and exhausted enough already but I totally conked out. Eventually after DH insisted we watch the series five million times I came to like it enough.



I have for some reason been unable to sit through any of the three (on DVD) without falling asleep. I've tried a couple of times and have come to the conclusion its not the quality of the films but some freaky sound wave effect that's soporific for some people



Are you pregnant too? :)
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"

Posted - 04/14/2007 :  08:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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There is nothing intellectually interesting about The Lord Of The Rings. It is pure twaddle.


A great deal of scholars would disagree, I imagine, as "Lord of the Rings" is frequently discussed and studied in literature classes. Cruising online for film reviews of "Two Towers" alone, I found people critiquing the movie as an allegory of World War II, particularly with the Ents, sleeping giants who are incited to war when their own are attacked, as being representative of America. "Two Towers" is where we first meet Gollum, whose devotion to the Ring has been read as both an addiction and a codependent relationship. One of the major theme through all the movies is that true power can't be put in the hands of anyone -- Frodo is given the One Ring because he's a shmuck who wouldn't know how to use the power he's given. And that's me just cruisin' through, I haven't even looked at the real heavy scholarly stuff yet.

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And I understand that "Towers: Two of Them" is not an inversion of "X's Y." but it mimics it, which is enough to reference it and make the point.


Not really. "Towers: Two of them" doesn't work as a critique of Tolkien's "pretentious" language because it actually sounds less pretentious than "Two Towers." Maybe "Towers of Two" would have worked. Even so, that's hardly a joke you could tell without explaining your logic.

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"Films are an artistic pursuit" - don't you think trying to sum up film in one short sentence is a little ambitious?


Not really. Films are by definition an art form. That's just what they are, there's nothing at all to argue here.

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If you want to criticise "Towers: Two of Them" for not giving a full critique of the film in four words then, yes, you are right, thanks for pointing that one out to me.



Hey, hey now, you made the contention that "Towers: Two of Them" said all you needed to know about the movie.
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Conan The Westy 
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"

Posted - 04/14/2007 :  09:29:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by demonic
But to my memory there are actually more than two towers in the film.


When Tolkien initially wrote The Two Towers he was thinking of Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul being the towers in question. Peter Jackson altered the focus to the uneasy alliance between Saruman in Orthanc and Sauron in Barad-dur.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the potential generic conflict for "Towers: Two of them" between World Trade Center and The Two Towers. 9/11 had some studio execs wanting to change Tolkien's title.
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