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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"
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 Posted - 04/23/2007 : 23:17:03
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I'm so excited. I must have watched the latest trailer about five times and I get goosebumps every time. I used to read the comics when I was growing up, and even got into the new version, Ultimate Spiderman, which came out several years ago.
When the first film was announced I was actually quite disappointed that Toby McGuire was cast - I didn't think he was cool enough to pull it off and even though Peter Parker was supposed to be a geek, Toby was a geek too far. But I was wrong. He was perfect, and the first two films, IMO, were the greatest superhero films ever produced. And the latest one looks like it could be even better than the last two.
In a moment of weakness I even watched a five minute excerpt that was posted on YouTube, which features a quite magnificent chase scene. I felt like a five-year-old spying on something he shouldn't but had to keep watching.
SLIGHT SPOILER: Anyone who's followed the development of this latest film will know that Spidey's up against three, YES THREE, baddies, and he's got the ongoing romance with MJ to contend with. Don't know how long the film is but I'm hoping it's slightly extended to fit this all in. Frankly I wouldn't care if it goes on for five hours but I may have to wait for the Director's Dream Cut for that to happen. |
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 04/24/2007 : 19:30:41
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i'm really hoping this movie will be good but i'm skeptical.
i've said all this on these boards before.
most times, not always, two good movies is about all any concept is good for. the good part three is pretty rare.
also, the fact that they're cramming so many villains into this one bodes badly. that was one of the big problems with 'Batman & Robin,' although that's just the tip of the iceberg as far as what was wrong with that garbage.
characters like Spiderman and Batman have such rich histories. there's no need to force so many characters into one film. |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 04/24/2007 : 21:22:27
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Just off the top of my head I could list at least a dozen "third in a series" that were fantastically entertaining movies.
I don't think three villains is too many. Sandman sounds really interesting. Of the other two villains, one of them is the continuation of a story arc that we've been following since the first film, and as for Venom...well, explaning this would give away spoilers to anybody who doesn't already know a lot about the Spider-man universe. And by the way, I envy those viewers. |
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benj clews 
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Posted - 04/24/2007 : 23:32:22
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I worry about the three villains thing, too. I also worry that maybe Sam Raimi doesn't have quite the control over this one he might have wanted. He was frequently interviewed after number 2 as saying he wasn't going to do Venom but was then persuaded to include him in the third instalment. It's possible the studio is trying to up the ante with effects and sheer quantity of baddies, rather than doing so with a genuine decent story.
I can understand not using Sandman as the main baddie- as far as I'm aware he never really posed a serious threat to Spider-man and was almost a comical baddie in some instances of the comic book. Really, they should have teamed him up with another lesser baddie. And Green Goblin 2 also doesn't strike me as any more of a threat than his Dad was in part 1. Venom however, really does deserve the full-on baddie duties without having to share it with a couple of other cronies- just as Bane deserved in Batman & Robin.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see. If nothing else, it's gonna' look the dog's bollocks  |
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damalc
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 02:01:19
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Originally posted by Downtown
Just off the top of my head I could list at least a dozen "third in a series" that were fantastically entertaining movies.
first of all, let me clarify. perhaps it's the second part of of the series, not necessarily the third that's not good. (Matrix Reloaded, Attack of the Clones, and I predict that Deadman's Chest will be the weakest of the PotC movies)
but i stand by my 2-per-concept rule of thumb.
i'm not saying there aren't any good part 3s but there are a ton of bad ones. and if those goofballs in hollywood continue past that ... ugh.
at least 12? i want some of that action Downtown. let's hear 'em. |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 03:45:27
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 04:08:14
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Anyway, good Part IIIs:
American Wedding (best of the franchise, at least)
Army of Darkness (to be honest, I don't like Army of Darkness at all, but it's generally well-liked)
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (if that counts)
Final Destination 3
Friday the 13th Part 3 (so my horror buff friend tells me)
Goldfinger
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Return of the Jedi
Rocky III
Saw III
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (weakest of the franchise but really not bad at all) |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 04:25:00
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Anyway, good Part IIIs:
American Wedding (best of the franchise, at least)
Army of Darkness (to be honest, I don't like Army of Darkness at all, but it's generally well-liked)
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (if that counts)
Final Destination 3
Friday the 13th Part 3 (so my horror buff friend tells me)
Goldfinger
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Return of the Jedi
Rocky III
Saw III
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (weakest of the franchise but really not bad at all)
That's a pretty good list. I would add:
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Nightmare on Elm St. III: Dream Warriors (by far the most creative and imaginative of the series, if not the best)
The Pink Panther Strikes Again (Some of Sellers's absolute best)
X3
And Revenge of the Sith definitely counts. Even if someone doesn't like it, it's by far the best of the three...besides, it's great. |
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damalc
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 04/25/2007 : 15:00:18
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Originally posted by Downtown
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Anyway, good Part IIIs:
American Wedding (best of the franchise, at least)
Army of Darkness (to be honest, I don't like Army of Darkness at all, but it's generally well-liked)
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (if that counts)
Final Destination 3
Friday the 13th Part 3 (so my horror buff friend tells me)
Goldfinger
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Return of the Jedi
Rocky III
Saw III
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (weakest of the franchise but really not bad at all)
That's a pretty good list. I would add:
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Nightmare on Elm St. III: Dream Warriors (by far the most creative and imaginative of the series, if not the best)
The Pink Panther Strikes Again (Some of Sellers's absolute best)
X3
And Revenge of the Sith definitely counts. Even if someone doesn't like it, it's by far the best of the three...besides, it's great.
those aren't bad offerings. some i really disagree with, and a lot of them i haven't seen. let's see ...
Revenge of the Sith, i was surprisingly entertained, despite my high expectations for the franchise. Attack of the Clones was bad though.
LOTR: ROTK: excellent! i think making all three installments at once really helps, same with Back to the Future.
i thought Rocky 3, Terminator 3, Dream Warriors and X3 were all crap. there's also Robocop 3, Alien 3 (though that franchise was redeemed with Resurrection), Godfather 3 (good but weakest of franchise), Halloween 3 (maybe the WORST sequel of all time), Poltergeist 3, Superman 3, Beverly Hills Cop 3, Rambo 3, Karate Kid 3. i put james bond in a special category. Goldfinger was good but the Bond franchise is pretty up and down.
and of course, "There can be only one" ... good Highlander movie.
but everybody likes what they like. i may be missing some really good stuff with my theory. |
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damalc
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 18:10:30
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| don't get me wrong, i'm definitely going to see SM3. in fact, i discovered today that they have tickets for next week's midnight showings for sale online already. |
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benj clews
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 04/27/2007 : 17:17:37
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Bugger... 
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/review.asp?FID=11021
Critics. What a bunch of bleeps.
About two-thirds through the review, he finally brings himself to admit "there is plenty to like about Spider-Man 3, and not a little to love." He then proceeds to write about why it was such a fun, entertaining movie...after a WHOLE ESSAY about what's wrong with it. He knows most readers won't get to the reasons why they should see it, because any print journalist knows the average reader never actually finish the articles...most only read the first paragraph.
So why is he trying so hard to convince people not to go see a movie that he seemed to really like? This reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons where Homer becomes a food critic for the local newspaper...the editor has the NOVEL IDEA of hiring a food critic that actually LIKES almost all the food and tells all his readers that they should go out and enjoy it. Of course, all the other critics on the paper's staff end up confronting Homer and telling him he has to stop liking everything and telling readers it's so great, because as a critic it's his job to nitpick and point out each and every fault and basically do whatever he can to destroy his subjects.
Sorry to disappoint you Mr. Hewitt, but I'm still looking forward to seeing this movie. |
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TitanPa 
"Here four more"
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Posted - 05/02/2007 : 18:40:19
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| I was surprised last night when my wife asked me if I wanted to see Spider-Man 3. I said sure. When??? She said that we could go Friday when it comes out. She surprised me. She doesnt really like to see those kinds of movies. She has to watch Part 2 first though. She saw 1 but not 2. I am getting excited. I cant wait. I hope it lives up to my expectations and more. I am a comic book buff at heart. I am so ready!! |
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Beanmimo
"August review site"
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 13:44:01
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat
and the first two films, IMO, were the greatest superhero films ever produced.
I still hold that The Hulk was a perfect adaptation but just bombed at the box office. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 14:50:21
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat
and the first two films, IMO, were the greatest superhero films ever produced.
I still hold that The Hulk was a perfect adaptation but just bombed at the box office.
What downtown was thinking while watching The Hulk:
First third of the film: "This is really slow, but I guess it's interesting with nice character development."
Middle third of the film: "This is awesome!"
Final third of the film: "What the hell is going on? They're flying with him up in the stratosphere? Why did that guy just turn into a hurricane?"
The story clearly got away from the writers and just starts to fly out of control at some point. I think the screenplay and script both needed at least one more re-write before they started shooting.
I'd still have to go with Tim Burton's Batman as the best film adapted from a comic book series. First of all, it has to be recognized as the prototypical film of its kind - we all know Reeve's campy Superman films are a completely different animal, even if we love them. And while there's plenty of room to debate which was better, Batman or Batman Begins, I think Burton did a better job of keeping everything in line with the Batman that Bob Kane created and Frank Miller reminded us about (This review does a great job pointing that out). From the very first frame, we are definitely looking at the "real" Gotham City. Jack's Joker was a slam dunk, a truly psychotic sadist with a twisted - and brilliant - sense of humor. Keaton might have been just a bit too subdued, but his Batman is still excellent, a brooding, lonely man torn between his morality and his insatiable need to avenge is parents.
And he looked a lot better in the costume than Christian Bale did. |
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 19:56:51
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Ang Lee's "Hulk" is the unholy offspring of "Unbreakable" and "Batman & Robin." It's like Lee wanted to make this serious film about the dangers of righteous anger, but hated the idea of marrying these themes to something so stupid as a comic book movie, and so he made half the scenes serious and half of them so over-the-top and ridiculous it almost comes across as an apology.
I saw "Spider-Man 3" last night. Ignore the reviews that say it is overstuffed and lacks humanity. It is the single best superhero movie ever made. More thoughts coming when my brain recovers. |
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