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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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 Posted - 09/02/2007 : 09:42:53
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I am perfectly happy for Baffy or anyone else to post this kind of thread in the polite and constructive way Baffy has done. 
I'd say this about the review - it's review for the sake of a pun rather than a pun for the sake of a review, and that's always risking a rejection.  
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ragingfluff 
"Currently lost in Canada"
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 15:26:30
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| I have no idea what makes an "experienced" reviewer. I am grateful for this fourum, though, and I have resubmitted the two reviews I mentioned...I will post here with the results. This is a perfectly healthy discussion and I have no problem with it. I suppose the obvious question about the inconsistencies is "who are the MERPS?" Could I become one if I wanted? It's a volunteer position, right? So if I'm willing to give over some of my spare time, could I be allowed do it??? |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 16:35:16
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Apparently not.
All MERPs are appointed by Benj - volunteering is not required. 
As far as I know all MERPs were appointed long long ago, at least well before I arrived which was more than 2 years ago.
Prior to Benj's decision to (temporarily) limit submissions to 20 per week I suggested to him that he appoint more MERPs, but his response was that he didn't think it was a good time to appoint more MERPs, for reasons which he had obviously carefully considered but preferred not to discuss. I got the impression, although I could be wrong, this had something to do with consistency in the approval/rejection process.
However, I'm not alone in regretting that there cannot be more MERPs and therefore faster approvals. As of today I have a 2nd pass review which is 11 months old!
The identity of MERPs is not revealed and they are clearly not allowed to reveal it either. In fact, so many people have told me that they are not MERPs I suspect it may be a condition that they actually deny being MERPs if asked! Oh, I am not a MERP either. Honest. I'm not. Really.
All I can add is that there has been such a slowdown win editing whilst Benj has been on honeymoon that it seems to me that Benj does at least half of all the approvals himself.
Hope this helps.
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ragingfluff
"Currently lost in Canada"
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 17:02:10
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Edited by - ragingfluff on 09/02/2007 17:02:51 |
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RockGolf 
"1500+ reviews. 1 joke."
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 19:33:19
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| Ragingfluff: Resubmit your Grindhouse review as "A Kill Double Bill" and I'd bet it passes. I love it personally. |
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ragingfluff
"Currently lost in Canada"
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Posted - 09/02/2007 : 19:42:11
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Originally posted by R o � k G o 7 f
Ragingfluff: Resubmit your Grindhouse review as "A Kill Double Bill" and I'd bet it passes. I love it personally.
Thank you. I resubmitted it as "A Double (Kill) Bill" with an explanation...we'll see what happens. I resubmitted the Alfie review with an explanation (using today's word: "priapic")...I'll let you know if and when they get accepted, or if they get rejected again, I'll post the reasons.
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randall 
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 00:23:55
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
there has been such a slowdown win editing whilst Benj has been on honeymoon that it seems to me that Benj does at least half of all the approvals himself.
Don't quite get the "slowdown win editing," but take note that banj used to do al the aprovals himsel! |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 01:21:23
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Originally posted by Randall
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
there has been such a slowdown win editing whilst Benj has been on honeymoon that it seems to me that Benj does at least half of all the approvals himself.
Don't quite get the "slowdown win editing," but take note that banj used to do al the aprovals himsel!
Make that a "slowdown in editing". |
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 02:53:03
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I cuss when a review gets declined, every time, but I have to say it is always with a good reason and I secretly welcome it if it is really necessary. It usually means I've not quite nailed it yet, and more often than not because I've not made myself crystal clear in my review and the MERP might need some explanation as to what I'm getting at. In the slowdown of approvals I've begun to add an explanation to all but the most obvious reviews just to try and speed up the process and avoid second passes - I, like Whipper, have extraordinarily old second passes waiting to be processed.
What I'm getting at is I'm glad the MERPs don't approve any old half-thought idea I throw out - I want all my reviews to be the best on the page if possible - and the declines usually always help that. That's why I scratch my head sometimes at what I might have done wrong and take another crack at it.
Baffy - I don't think anyone minds discussing this - you've definitely approached it in the right way and without any rancour or divisive intent. As the others have pointed out consistency is a difficult thing to expect now there are x number of MERPs approving along with Benj.
It just occurred to me rereading this thread: regarding the validity of the two sides of the "bloody cross" issue. Jesus does indeed get bloody cross in every version of the story I can think of - in the temple, turning over the moneychangers tables, etc. so it does work both ways, although you're quite right that not every approved pun applies even slightly to the film involved. I think it was Bife who explained best that in the instance of your review the literal not the double meaning doesn't hold up. I'm still not sure what you're getting at in the literal sense.
edit: Comically, while I was writing this (perhaps because of it, you lurking MERPs you) a review for "Nine 1/2 Weeks", one of my oldest second passes, got declined. It stings a lot, mainly becasue it took nearly a whole year to get judgement and after that amount of time you begin to fixate (but also lose perspective?). It was also a review I liked and thought had legs. I've never done this before, but cheekily piggybacking Baffy's thread I wouldn't mind some wise fourum thoughts. My review was "Overrate and 1/2 Weeks". |
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shoon
"Five(ish?) years as a fwiffer"
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 06:23:37
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Apparently not.
All MERPs are appointed by Benj - volunteering is not required.
Not really true, I seem to remember that benj asked for people to volunteer a while ago. Maybe he's appointed some people since then but from what I remember it was voluntary.
Anyway, yeah. You really expect people to be 100% consistant all the time? Like everyone's said, it's impossible. And for the record also, I don't think the pun really works, so I wouldn't have said it'd get passed. |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 07:44:45
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
However, I'm not alone in regretting that there cannot be more MERPs and therefore faster approvals. As of today I have a 2nd pass review which is 11 months old!
I was under the impression that 2nd pass reviews always go to Benj and not to the MERPs. With that in mind, I deleted all my 2nd (and 3rd) pass reviews and resubmitted them - albeit, most of them slightly modified - since I knew that Benj's personal life would keep him away from working on these.
Of course, I could be wrong, but as my oldest review is from July, I'm inclined to think I'm right about this.
(However, I have my suspicions that the MERPs are doing what they can to approve as many of the reviews of a "he-who-should-not-be-named" reviewer to keep him one spot above me and thereby hopefully avoid more nasty threads from him here in the Fourum.) |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 10:32:14
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Originally posted by shoon
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Apparently not.
All MERPs are appointed by Benj - volunteering is not required.
Not really true, I seem to remember that benj asked for people to volunteer a while ago. Maybe he's appointed some people since then but from what I remember it was voluntary.
Thanks for the correction Shoon , but that would have been more than 2 years ago.
Certainly, when Benj last posted on the subject, he was not looking to create more MERPs.
Of course, there's nothing to stop anyone pming Benj and volunteering if they really want to, but no-one at this time is asking for volunteers.
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 10:46:12
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
However, I'm not alone in regretting that there cannot be more MERPs and therefore faster approvals. As of today I have a 2nd pass review which is 11 months old!
I was under the impression that 2nd pass reviews always go to Benj and not to the MERPs. With that in mind, I deleted all my 2nd (and 3rd) pass reviews and resubmitted them - albeit, most of them slightly modified - since I knew that Benj's personal life would keep him away from working on these.
I seem to remember Benj posting that it was no longer the case that only he did 2nd and subsequent pass reviews, MERPs do 'em too, he said.
Also, for those reviews I already have pending, I can't afford to delete and resubmit as it eats into the 20 a week allocation which I nearly always use up. 
So, I'm now waiting to see whether any of my reviews pending from October reach their first birthday unapproved. 
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bife
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 21:02:24
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Originally posted by demonic
edit: Comically, while I was writing this (perhaps because of it, you lurking MERPs you) a review for "Nine 1/2 Weeks", one of my oldest second passes, got declined. It stings a lot, mainly becasue it took nearly a whole year to get judgement and after that amount of time you begin to fixate (but also lose perspective?). It was also a review I liked and thought had legs. I've never done this before, but cheekily piggybacking Baffy's thread I wouldn't mind some wise fourum thoughts. My review was "Overrate and 1/2 Weeks".
Maybe it's just me, but I've absolutely no idea what it means 
And I've seen Nine 1/2 Weeks more than once |
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demonic
"Cinemaniac"
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Posted - 09/03/2007 : 23:10:48
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| The lack of clarity would explains the first decline - I resubbed with explanation. The film is overrated, but "nine and 1/2 weeks" is also literally "over eight and 1/2 weeks". What think you? |
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