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MM0rkeleb 
"Better than HBO."

Posted - 09/20/2007 :  17:56:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The other day I got a neat idea for an accolade: remakes that were helmed by the director of the original. I can only think of five examples off the top of my head:

Hitchcock and The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934/1956)
Haneke and Funny Games (1997/2007)
DeMille and The Ten Commandments (1923/1956)
Nakata and Ringu 2/The Ring 2
and, if one allows a certain amount of leeway, Herzog and Little Dieter Wants to Fly/Rescue Dawn.

Does anyone know of any other examples?

lemmycaution 
"Long mired in film"

Posted - 09/20/2007 :  18:20:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DeMille--The Squaw Man

Sluizer--The Vanishing

Veber--Les fugitifs/Three Fugitives

Hawks--Ball of Fire/A Song Is Born

After thinking of the above I remembered this IMDb link:

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/remake-by-original-director/

Edited by - lemmycaution on 09/20/2007 18:28:14
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 09/20/2007 :  19:25:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

One of the best - an not on the imdb list - is J'Accuse. Not the 1958 Jose Ferrer film about Dreyfuss, but Abel Gance's brilliant 1919 silent classic about soldiers in WWI, which he remade in 1938 with a soundtrack. It may be apocryphal but apparently Gance filmed the 1919 version with all the actors speaking actual lines even though there was no sound. The custom at the time with most silent films was to have the actors either improvising dialog or saying nothing of consequence. Prescient Gance knew it was only a matter of time before sound would be added to pictures, so when it came time for the remake he just had to fill in some additional footage and dub on the soundtrack which lip-synched perfectly with the dialog.

Good story - whether or not it's true!


Edited by - BaftaBaby on 09/20/2007 19:25:49
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randall 
"I like to watch."

Posted - 09/20/2007 :  22:13:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe


One of the best - an not on the imdb list - is J'Accuse. Not the 1958 Jose Ferrer film about Dreyfuss, but Abel Gance's brilliant 1919 silent classic about soldiers in WWI, which he remade in 1938 with a soundtrack. It may be apocryphal but apparently Gance filmed the 1919 version with all the actors speaking actual lines even though there was no sound. The custom at the time with most silent films was to have the actors either improvising dialog or saying nothing of consequence. Prescient Gance knew it was only a matter of time before sound would be added to pictures, so when it came time for the remake he just had to fill in some additional footage and dub on the soundtrack which lip-synched perfectly with the dialog.

Good story - whether or not it's true!




Great story, Baffy, but that's not a remake in the sense of dragging a whole crew's ass out there again. A similar stunt was pulled, I believe, for the original PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, but Chaney did not participate in the "remake."
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BaftaBaby 
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Posted - 09/20/2007 :  23:18:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Randall

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Originally posted by BaftaBabe


One of the best - an not on the imdb list - is J'Accuse. Not the 1958 Jose Ferrer film about Dreyfuss, but Abel Gance's brilliant 1919 silent classic about soldiers in WWI, which he remade in 1938 with a soundtrack. It may be apocryphal but apparently Gance filmed the 1919 version with all the actors speaking actual lines even though there was no sound. The custom at the time with most silent films was to have the actors either improvising dialog or saying nothing of consequence. Prescient Gance knew it was only a matter of time before sound would be added to pictures, so when it came time for the remake he just had to fill in some additional footage and dub on the soundtrack which lip-synched perfectly with the dialog.

Good story - whether or not it's true!




Great story, Baffy, but that's not a remake in the sense of dragging a whole crew's ass out there again. A similar stunt was pulled, I believe, for the original PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, but Chaney did not participate in the "remake."



This isn't my source [which was a discussion at the National Film and TV School], but dbdumonteil gives a neat precis. Trawling around the web - the consensus seems to be that he re-used the war footage but re-shot most of the other scenes.

I've also just learned that the original was classified in some countries as a horror film because of the unforgettable scene that has the soldiers rising ghost-like from their graves to 'accuse' those who sent them off to war.

Up to M0rkeleb, whether to include the film --- the accolade sounds a great idea!


Edited by - BaftaBaby on 09/20/2007 23:19:10
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MM0rkeleb 
"Better than HBO."

Posted - 09/23/2007 :  02:20:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the imput, everybody! I've picked my 10 favorites and slammed them together here.
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