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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  09:38:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The BaftaBabe Accolade Factory is working overtime to bring you the most freshly baked accolades with the widest variety of toppings on the High Street. Not to mention the most interactive.

Yes YOU get to choose some films for the newest on our acc menu: What Do You Mean, Baby?!

This one features couples in which the guy wants a baby, but the woman doesn't. Not that she can't have kids, but something is more important - career, extra-marital nookie, whatever. -- Sorry, this will have to be limited to straight couples for the premise to work.

These films are proving harder to find than I thought. So far I've got Educating Rita, the Wayans Little Man, and the Italian Honolulu Baby.

I'll keep looking, of course, but does anyone know any more?

Your name will go down in accolade history for any suggestions used.
TIA Bigtime


PS can anyone remember whether Jenna's bloke in Waitress actually wants a baby?

Edited by - BaftaBaby on 10/14/2007 09:42:56

ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  10:53:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think in The Good Girl they both seem to want a baby, but Aniston's character is less into it than he is - especially after she meets up with Jake Gyllenhaal.

And in Vera Drake almost all the women don't want their pregnancies, and I do recall at least one who mentioned that her husband wants kids.

And in Rain Without Thunder all the women don't want their pregnancies and the men do want the kids.

Edited by - ChocolateLady on 10/14/2007 11:08:08
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  11:45:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

I think in The Good Girl they both seem to want a baby, but Aniston's character is less into it than he is - especially after she meets up with Jake Gyllenhaal.

And in Vera Drake almost all the women don't want their pregnancies, and I do recall at least one who mentioned that her husband wants kids.

And in Rain Without Thunder all the women don't want their pregnancies and the men do want the kids.



Gosh, thanks, CL - I hadn't even considered the unwanted pregnancy aspect, but you're absolutely right. It's making me think about what I really want the acc to do. As often - I've been too hasty!!

Which is why I'm dithering about [the wonderful] Vera Drake, because what I want to concentrate on in this acc is how the different attitudes affect the central partnership relationship. In VD she is herself the main character and we really only get sketchy glimpses into the lives of the women. I don't in any way want to rule out abortion related plots, but it would need to be an action taken by a central character because she was at odds with her partner about having children.

I do think The Good Girl is apt, though - in much the same way as Educating Rita. It's because these women don't want children that they're at liberty to do the other things that form the film's story - in Rita's case it's to resume her education, in The Good Girl it allows her to contemplate another relationship.

Maybe the acc should be called Broody Men.

Have you seen Rain Without Thunder? If so, is it more about whether to have an abortion when they've been outlawed, as opposed to what a baby would mean to the relationship? There's not much online about the film, but what I can find seems to suggest the film centers on the woman and her mother, not the woman and her partner. Is that right?

But, thanks again - you've really made me think!!


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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  12:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good points. But I seem to remember in Vera Drake that she too had an abortion once, which was what made her get into the business. I could be wrong, though.

I have seen Rain Without Thunder and in general, you're right. However, while it focuses mostly on the woman and her mother, there is a whole bit about the father's wanting the baby and how the abortion abroad got discovered and how she got arrested. There's a whole interview piece with him showing how upset he was when he found out, so this might be relevant. Still, it is your accolade, so you decide. In any case, it is a fascinating movie and one you should see - it is done as a mock-umentary and was inspired by Margarett Atwood's book "A Handmaid's Tale".

I thought about Knocked Up but I really don't think that works for your angle.

However, Woman of the Year is probably perfect for this. When she starts telling him about the child, he's thrilled. Of course when he realizes that its an orphan from Greece, he isn't all that excited, but her whole career is certainly the reason why she can't keep the kid and will probably never have kids of her own.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  12:25:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This will probably get a thumbs down too, but 3 Men and a Baby the girl leaves the baby with the father, who, although he isn't happy about it, does eventually come around, and then doesn't want to give her back to her mother.

However, if you are going to include mothers who abandon their kids, then Eveyln is a good choice as well. That brings in Kramer Vs. Kramer as well as a whole slew of other movies.

Edited by - ChocolateLady on 10/14/2007 12:32:04
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  15:43:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

PS can anyone remember whether Jenna's bloke in Waitress actually wants a baby?

Definitely.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  15:47:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In Big Business, the rich mother begrudgingly undertakes one pregnancy to satisfy the father.

There are a fair few films where someone has been brought up by the father after the mother ran off, so presumably she was less interested, but I cannot now think of any.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  15:50:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The guy isn't the father in Curly Sue, but he still looks after the child once the mother has run off. The same is the case in Hustler White.
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turrell 
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "

Posted - 10/14/2007 :  15:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well if they ever make a movie about my brother and his ex-wife, I'll be sure to let you know.
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TitanPa 
"Here four more"

Posted - 10/15/2007 :  06:47:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Cool, Dry Place - Vince Vaughn is raising his son after his wife abandons him

Anyone know why Steve Carell is a single father in the new movie 'Dan in Real Life'?
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 10/15/2007 :  10:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many thanks to everyone so far. Am a bit hassled with various stuff this week, but will get back to this one asap.
PS found a great trophy for it, too!



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Yukon 
"Co-editor of FWFR book"

Posted - 11/11/2007 :  12:56:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by T8tanPa

A Cool, Dry Place - Vince Vaughn is raising his son after his wife abandons him

Anyone know why Steve Carell is a single father in the new movie 'Dan in Real Life'?



His wife died (Don't worry everyone, that's not a spoiler).
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 11/11/2007 :  13:33:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yukon

quote:
Originally posted by T8tanPa

A Cool, Dry Place - Vince Vaughn is raising his son after his wife abandons him

Anyone know why Steve Carell is a single father in the new movie 'Dan in Real Life'?



His wife died (Don't worry everyone, that's not a spoiler).



Thanks, Yukie ... and please forgive me, everyone ... I'm pinned down by a virtual avalanche of stuff to do and hope to get back to paying more attention to my accs and voting very soon. YIKES!

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