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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"
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 Posted - 07/08/2008 : 13:09:06
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
I thought my understanding of that was evident in my last post
And I thought my understanding of the animation and all of the other factors being factors was evident in my earlier post; I took your post to mean that it was not, hence my reiteration of that. |
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chazbo 
"Outta This Fuckin' Place"
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Posted - 07/08/2008 : 19:02:32
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by chazbo
We still tend to think of animation as a children's genre, and though a good children's animated film also appeals to an adult audience, it is never taken as seriously by mainstream audiences as movies in other genres.
The great thing about Persepolis is that it compellingly tells an adult story in the animated genre.
As Satrapi herself is very keen to point out, animation is not a genre: it's a medium. It's thinking of it as a genre which is what may limit people's thinking of Persepolis. (I actually think you agree on this point but are just happening to use the word genre.  )
That's right. I used "we" as a reference to the mainstream moviegoing public, who do see animation as a genre (as the Academy obviously does, though perhaps less so than in the past), and who would on the whole see Porky Pig as an entertaining oddity rather than a character challenging social norms.
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demonic
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Posted - 07/09/2008 : 01:28:14
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These strange and incessant semantic quibbles on practically every subject and every film are actually put me off contributing to the topic.
I'm persevering anyway.
I don't think Persepolis should have won the Oscar over Ratatouille. I enjoyed Persepolis but felt there was plenty wrong with it, namely the stunted anecdotal narrative structure which took at least half and hour to settle down, some very dodgy, rushed and emotionally dry voice dubbing (unfortunately my only option - I'd much rather subtitles), and a confused overall message. The animation was wonderful and I loved it, and it was brilliantly funny, but I was dissatisfied on the whole following the huge praise it has garnered.
Persepolis may be a true story and one worth telling, and it does it very well, but comparing it to a pure entertainment like Ratatouille is fruitless; it's like comparing the brightest most delectable candy with really good soup. Having said that - the latter emotionally engaged and enchanted me even though it's a made up story about a rat. How much harder is that to actually pull off emotional engagement to a fictional computer generated rodent with an incongruous American accent? |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/09/2008 : 01:44:20
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Yep, I didn't feel the dubbing worked well either. Given that it is an animation and the facial shapes were stylised, I found that quite surprising.
I guess the enjoyment of candy is more transient than that of soup! |
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