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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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 Posted - 11/29/2007 : 05:45:23
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For the record, 30 Rock is the best show on television. I never watched Studio 60, but for some reason I can't help but look for articles rubbing salt in the wound of its apparently well-deserved demise. |
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 11/29/2007 : 10:01:43
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Voted.
For the record, 30 Rock is the best show on television. I never watched Studio 60, but for some reason I can't help but look for articles rubbing salt in the wound of its apparently well-deserved demise.
Sorry, but I don't believe "Studio 60" deserved to be cancelled. It was a marvelous show, intelligent script, great acting and very creative. The type of programming that you don't get every day - on the level with "The West Wing" and "M*A*S*H". But ratings are what's important, and apparently the American viewing public prefer crappy reality shows and mind numbingly stupid comedies to quality shows these days. Yes, "30 Rock" is cute, but its certainly not an intelligent comedy show.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Animal Mutha 
"Who would've thunk it?"
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Posted - 11/29/2007 : 16:00:39
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Voted.
For the record, 30 Rock is the best show on television. I never watched Studio 60, but for some reason I can't help but look for articles rubbing salt in the wound of its apparently well-deserved demise.
Sorry, but I don't believe "Studio 60" deserved to be cancelled. It was a marvelous show, intelligent script, great acting and very creative. The type of programming that you don't get every day - on the level with "The West Wing" and "M*A*S*H". But ratings are what's important, and apparently the American viewing public prefer crappy reality shows and mind numbingly stupid comedies to quality shows these days. Yes, "30 Rock" is cute, but its certainly not an intelligent comedy show.
I tried to like Studio 60, as I was a big fan of West Wing. I just ended up tuning out after about 6 episodes. It just struck me as being very smug and the comedy sketches that they would work on so hard for broadcast, just weren't that funny. 30 Rock on the other hand, wasn't my cup of tea at first, but I just found myself laughing more as I got to know the characters. Alec Baldwin and Tracy Morgan, I salute you.  |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 07:38:33
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I tried to like Studio 60, as I was a big fan of West Wing. I just ended up tuning out after about 6 episodes. It just struck me as being very smug and the comedy sketches that they would work on so hard for broadcast, just weren't that funny.
See, there's the crux. From episode 7, they started to focus more on the people or the things behind the sketches than the sketches themselves. There were two episodes in the middle that were also not so great - 10 and 11, but from episode 13 straight through to the end, we really got to know the people and their personal pressures, which were coupled with the pressures of putting on a weekly live show - which I think was the real essence of the concept.
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 08:20:48
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
Voted.
For the record, 30 Rock is the best show on television. I never watched Studio 60, but for some reason I can't help but look for articles rubbing salt in the wound of its apparently well-deserved demise.
Sorry, but I don't believe "Studio 60" deserved to be cancelled. It was a marvelous show, intelligent script, great acting and very creative. The type of programming that you don't get every day - on the level with "The West Wing" and "M*A*S*H". But ratings are what's important, and apparently the American viewing public prefer crappy reality shows and mind numbingly stupid comedies to quality shows these days. Yes, "30 Rock" is cute, but its certainly not an intelligent comedy show.
Chocy - I have to wholeheartedly disagree. And I am an unabashed Sorkin apologist, that is how much I love his work on Sports Night and The West Wing.
Studio 60 was a train wreck from the get go. It took itself way too seriously considering it was just about a sketch comedy show. Smug, idiosyncratic and painful to watch, its lofty over-earnestness was only marginally more bearable than its one-dimensional characters.
We were told, constantly, that the people we were watching were comedy geniuses but nothing, absolutely nothing on the screen, attested to that. The sketches were painfully unfunny, and nothing rang true.
A writer should write about things he knows, sure, but when their work becomes a fantasy facsimile of his real-life, as this show obviously was, the whole thing takes an extremely uncomfortable turn. Which is what happened in this show: it was like eavesdropping on Sorkin's therapy sessions. Yikes.
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Also, that stuff about American television's being nothing but a cesspool of mindnumbing reality tv is just not true, especially when the medium has been going through a widely celebrated "Third Golden Age" since 1999. Around the time Sorkin debuted his first two shows, in fact.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 10:33:46
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 14:19:51
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Here's the Prof's review for anyone who's interested.
Is there more than one Tsar in that film? It's a nice enough pun, but still...
Oh, that's a good point. Perhaps the whole family of the Tsar can be slangily called Tsars, cf. The Royal Tenenbaums. |
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 14:49:09
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I don't think you can do that, can you? I've never heard it before. The Tsar's family has always been referred to as the Romanovs, as far as I know.
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 14:52:33
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I don't think you can do that, can you? I've never heard it before. The Tsar's family has always been referred to as the Romanovs, as far as I know.
Yep, I don't really think you can either, but that was the best I could manage! |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 11/30/2007 : 14:53:49
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What Alexei being a future tsar...?  |
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