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duh 
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 Posted - 03/16/2008 : 09:21:19
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Koli 
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."
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Posted - 03/16/2008 : 09:30:27
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
Mr Darcy in a dripping wet shirt? 
Oliver Twist asking for more?
or a spot of De Sade's Philosophy in the Bedroom?
Let loose on literature, my little lexicographers!
While we're talking dates, am I not right in thinking that La Philosophie Dans le Boudoir was written in 1795, making it an 18th century play rather than a 19th century novel?
I venture this somewhat tentatively, as I don't know when it was actually published. Given that this was probably as vile as much of Sade's notorious output (though to be fair to him I have read some Sade short stories without any flagellation, rape or sodomy), I suppose it's possible that it took a while to persuade a publisher to go for it.  |
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Cheese_Ed
"The Provolone Ranger"
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Posted - 03/17/2008 : 16:21:17
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| The reading list is complete at www.fwiffer.com |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 03/17/2008 : 16:55:49
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Originally posted by Koli
While we're talking dates, am I not right in thinking that La Philosophie Dans le Boudoir was written in 1795, making it an 18th century play rather than a 19th century novel?
I venture this somewhat tentatively, as I don't know when it was actually published. Given that this was probably as vile as much of Sade's notorious output (though to be fair to him I have read some Sade short stories without any flagellation, rape or sodomy), I suppose it's possible that it took a while to persuade a publisher to go for it.
Ah, yes ... well ... it was actually written not as a play [though it has, of course, since been performed, notably on film], but in the form of a fictional dialogue, not intended for performance. The date you quote correctly, is the accepted one, though as you imply exact publication may have been later. I first encountered it in a collection also featuring his better-known Justine. The actual story of PitB isn't that far from Les Liaisons Dangereuse ... though far more explicit. Still, I personally wouldn't call it 'vile' - it asks legitimate questions about the function of the imagination and how repressive societal niceties can foment sexual tyrannies.
Yes, de Sade was ultimately mad, but he also had a mind capable of intricate analysis.
Hey ho!
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lemmycaution
"Long mired in film"
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Posted - 03/17/2008 : 17:05:55
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George Eliot's Middlemarch, the first novel written for grownups, according to Virginia Woolf.
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duh
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 03/17/2008 : 17:56:00
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
Yes, de Sade was ultimately mad, but he also had a mind capable of intricate analysis.
I once read a de Sade novel (the one about the orphan girl who was sent to a convent and then who became a murderous S & M whore (...I always wondered if Cathy of 'East of Eden' may have been modeled after that earlier character...) at a friend's house where there was little else to read and the friend and my hubby were out hunting. Garbage in, garbage out. Yes the writing was skillful, but I felt soiled and depressed afterwards. BB's comment makes me feel a little better about it. |
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MguyX 
"X marks the spot"
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Posted - 03/17/2008 : 21:26:57
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That would be the novel "Juliette," which is the companion novel to one of my favorites, "Justine." The novels are inverse treatments: Juliette basically lives a wild, predatory and successful life based on her embracing of vice. Justine, however, is virtuous, and suffers constant exploitation throughout her life. There is a great deal of Enlightenment-era philosophy in both books.
Napolean ordered the anonymous writer of both books imprisoned, who turned out to be Sade, so he spent the last 13 years of his life in prison for writing them. |
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MguyX
"X marks the spot"
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Posted - 03/18/2008 : 07:18:55
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
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Hey ho!
Who you callin' a ho?! 
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MguyX
"X marks the spot"
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Posted - 03/18/2008 : 21:22:45
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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Posted - 03/18/2008 : 21:43:13
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 03/18/2008 : 22:08:41
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Voted, then took the Express train to the 21st century!
With a hey and a ho and a nonny nonny no!
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Chris C
"Four words, never backwards."
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Posted - 03/18/2008 : 23:00:52
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 03/19/2008 : 07:19:39
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 03/19/2008 : 10:23:45
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| Voted. By the way, the poll is going to be in need of some lurker votes this time over at the John Malkovich FWTO. There's a huge clusterpuck all around the top and it's far from clear who will emerge amongst the 4 or 5 top votegetters. So, exercise your Constitutional rights (wherever you are) and rock the vote!!! |
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lemmycaution
"Long mired in film"
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Posted - 03/19/2008 : 15:43:48
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Sent votes to Pierre Cheese Ed without Ambiguities. |
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Avatar Contest #202 -- 19th century novels
