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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."

Posted - 03/25/2008 :  21:41:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My favorite is "factually inaccurate" which sometimes make me think either they didn't see the same film or perhaps there's a bit of a language barrier.

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boydegg 
"Creator of Grammarman comic."

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  00:45:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh dear - there seems to be a lot of disgruntled FWFRers! It ain't easy being a MERP, I guess.

Makes me feel better to read that a lot of others have had similar or worse problems.

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bife 
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  10:39:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by boydegg

Oh dear - there seems to be a lot of disgruntled FWFRers! It ain't easy being a MERP, I guess.

Makes me feel better to read that a lot of others have had similar or worse problems.





Yeah, I can't imagine why the MERPs wouldn't be more motivated, quicker and more thorough with this much support going around!
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  11:28:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I try not to get too involved with these types of discussions, but I have a problem with the defensive attitude any criticism of the MERPs automatically ganders. Sometimes, the decision to turn down a review is flat out bizarre. Complaining about it isn't tantamount to online mutiny.

It's a voluntary position - fine. But that's no reason to beatify the MERPs, you know. It's not like they're rescuing people from forest fires or anything.

Contrary to my abrasive style, I always favour centrism (apart from a few points to do with my personal politics inconsequential to the issue at hand), and a common ground is easy to find here. That the buck no longer stops at benj during a review's second (and final) go-round through the system means, maybe, that it shouldn't be its final go-round after all.

Either way, I am not that bothered as I have been going through a bit of a rough patch - I hate most of my reviews since November last year.



Edited by - Ali on 03/26/2008 11:30:47
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randall 
"I like to watch."

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  12:40:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I try to stay out of MERP bitch sessions because

1) We had some consistency problems even when it was only benj judging -- it must be very hard to stick to some pigeonholed rule as the number of reviews piles up;

2) There's more than one person at it now, which must make it even harder, but I'll trade the occasional slipup for not having to wait months and months for a decision;

3) Like everyone else, I've been the victim of what I considered a bad call more than once, yet the world's still here; and

4) The vast majority of my declined reviews deserved their fate.

Edited by - randall on 03/26/2008 12:53:14
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  12:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Agreed on all points. Some of the my declined reviews make me retch on second viewing.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  18:17:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ali

I try not to get too involved with these types of discussions, but I have a problem with the defensive attitude any criticism of the MERPs automatically ganders. Sometimes, the decision to turn down a review is flat out bizarre. Complaining about it isn't tantamount to online mutiny.

It's a voluntary position - fine. But that's no reason to beatify the MERPs, you know. It's not like they're rescuing people from forest fires or anything.

Contrary to my abrasive style, I always favour centrism (apart from a few points to do with my personal politics inconsequential to the issue at hand), and a common ground is easy to find here. That the buck no longer stops at benj during a review's second (and final) go-round through the system means, maybe, that it shouldn't be its final go-round after all.

Agreed. I criticise the decisions much, much less than I would consider perfectly valid, simply because the MERPs are treated as so sacrosanct by so many people. I get many, many rejections that are either very subjective or are just totally incomprehensible, but I don't go listing specific cases here, even though I would very much like to.

The MERPs' job is voluntary and really not that hard, given that they are not forced to process any particular number of reviews. There can be no doubt that there are numerous people who would be happy to be added to their ranks, some of whom would likely be better at being consistent and thorough.

As I've said several times, second submissions should just go to Benj. While Randall is correct that he was also not that consistent, one fixed person is bound to be more consistent than a random two out of eleven.

And yes, none of this matters much compared to the world at large. That's why we're discussing it here and not in a current affairs forum. Within the parameters of this website, it's perfectly important.
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"

Posted - 04/04/2008 :  23:39:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall

I try to stay out of MERP bitch sessions because

1) We had some consistency problems even when it was only benj judging -- it must be very hard to stick to some pigeonholed rule as the number of reviews piles up;

2) There's more than one person at it now, which must make it even harder, but I'll trade the occasional slipup for not having to wait months and months for a decision;

3) Like everyone else, I've been the victim of what I considered a bad call more than once, yet the world's still here; and

4) The vast majority of my declined reviews deserved their fate.



Your first instinct (not getting involved) was best.

Edited by - Downtown on 04/05/2008 06:47:29
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