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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  21:45:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.empireonline.com/100-greatest-movie-characters/


i'm working my way through this and have gotten to 81. pretty good, so far. if Teddy KGB isn't on there somewhere, this list has no credibility with me.

demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 04/07/2009 :  23:01:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's written by Empire magazine, of course it has no credibility.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  04:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by demonic

It's written by Empire magazine, of course it has no credibility.



The list is a horrid mess! Sorry!
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GHcool 
"Forever a curious character."

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  20:28:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have the time for all 100 characters so I'm just looking at the top 10.

I approve of:
Darth Vader
The Joker
Hannibal Lecter
Indiana Jones
Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean
Vito Corleone

I disapprove of:
Brad Pitt in Fight Club
Han Solo
The Dude from Big Lebowski
the chick from Alien

As I said, I'm not going through the whole list, but I'd be shocked (shocked!) if the following were not included:
Wall E
Schmidt in About Schmidt
John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever
Mary Poppins
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"

Posted - 04/08/2009 :  20:32:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

I don't have the time for all 100 characters so I'm just looking at the top 10.

I approve of:
Darth Vader
The Joker
Hannibal Lecter
Indiana Jones
Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean
Vito Corleone

I disapprove of:
Brad Pitt in Fight Club
Han Solo
The Dude from Big Lebowski
the chick from Alien

As I said, I'm not going through the whole list, but I'd be shocked (shocked!) if the following were not included:
Wall E
Schmidt in About Schmidt
John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever
Mary Poppins



can confirm that Wall E and Mary Poppins made it. haven't seen SNF's Tony Manero yet but he's another that i can't see being left off.

edit: after breezing to the end, my major complaints -- missing: KGB and Manero.
wrongly included: Jigsaw from the "Saw" series, EVERY major character from "Star Wars," and Neo.


Edited by - damalc on 04/08/2009 22:18:35
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 04/09/2009 :  00:26:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Empire magazine is total nonsense. They practically wet themselves at the idea of anything to do with George Lucas, Quentin Tarantino or Michael Bay. They also shamelessly glorify the currently hip and the entirely mediocre.

So many annoying things on this list, but here are a couple.

The best, most memorable Christopher Walken character they could come up with (as they admit - they have to have one. Why is that exactly?) was the cameo he did in "True Romance"? What's the guy's name again? Can't remember. It's that memorable.

What's with the sidekick fetish. Ed from "Shaun of the Dead". Brick Tamland from "Anchorman". Walter from "Big Lebowski". Really?

Mathilda but not Leon? Roy but not Deckard?

How about characters from really bad films... Harry Potter? Jack Sparrow? Blade???

And the flip side. Really good film, really ordinary characters... Red from "Shawshank"? Basically they had to pander to the opinion it's one of the greatest films ever, so they needed a character. Still would have gone for Andy though, if at all.

The following list just kept on growing... a few more ideas...

Missing in action: Col. Kurtz "Apocalypse Now", Harry Caul "The Conversation", Harry Angel "Angel Heart", Holly Golightly "Breakfast at Tiffanys", Depardieu's Cyrano de Bergerac, Max Cady "Cape Fear" (either!), John Merrick "The Elephant Man", Regan O'Neil & Damien Karras "The Exorcist", Col. Nathan Jessup "A Few Good Men", John Rambo "First Blood", Vincent Hanna & Neil McCauley "Heat", Jack Vincennes "LA Confidential", Frank Mackey "Magnolia", Laughton's Quasimodo "Hunchback of Notre Dame", Harry Powell "Night of the Hunter", Tom Reagan "Miller's Crossing", Betty Elms "Mulholland Drive", Oh Dae-su "Oldboy", Robocop, Don Lope de Aguirre "Aguirre Wrath of God", Beetlejuice, Bonnie Parker & Clyde Barrow, Jack Carter "Get Carter", Andrew Crocker-Harris "The Browning Version", Eric Draven "The Crow", Jake Gittes "Chinatown", Li Mu-bai "Crouching Tiger, Sally Bowles "Cabaret", Hidden Dragon", John Keating "Dead Poet's Society", El Mariachi "Desperado", Dr Strangelove, Popeye Doyle "French Connection", Seth Brundle "The Fly", Pinhead "Hellraiser", Lestat "Interview with the Vampire", Shere Khan & Baloo "The Jungle Book", T.E. Lawrence "Lawrence of Arabia", Thomas More "A Man For All Seasons", Benjamin Braddock "The Graduate", Jack Skellington "Nightmare Before Christmas", Nikita, Ofelia "Pan's Labyrinth", Max Bialystock & Leo Bloom "The Producers", Jake LaMotta "Raging Bull", Chuck Yeager "The Right Stuff", Sadako "Ring", Lola "Run Lola Run", Miles Raymond "Sideways", Don Lockwood "Singin' in the Rain", Sugar Kane in "Some Like it Hot", Max Schreck "Shadow of the Vampire", Spartacus, Fin McBride "The Station Agent", JJ Hunsecker "Sweet Smell of Success", Norma Desmond "Sunset Boulevard", Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, Trent Walker "Swingers", Harry Lime "The Third Man".
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 04/09/2009 :  05:13:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You've got that right! And what about Citizen Kane, Mozart in Amadeus, Tracey Lord in Philadelphia Story and soooooooo many more!
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Conan The Westy 
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"

Posted - 04/09/2009 :  11:25:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

You've got that right! And what about Citizen Kane, Mozart in Amadeus, Tracey Lord in Philadelphia Story and soooooooo many more!

Kane made it in at # 98 just above HAL-9000 & Martin Riggs
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"

Posted - 04/09/2009 :  15:19:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by demonic


...
How about characters from really bad films... Harry Potter? Jack Sparrow? Blade???

And the flip side. Really good film, really ordinary characters... Red from "Shawshank"? Basically they had to pander to the opinion it's one of the greatest films ever, so they needed a character.
...




i agree with almost everything you said, demonic, but don't be dissin' Red and Jack Sparrow.

Edited by - damalc on 04/09/2009 15:20:01
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/14/2009 :  13:15:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't looked at the list itself but I don't know about the inclusion of the Joker in the top 10. It's not like film invented the character, and if it's Ledger's version that's still just the previous incarnations + general psycho.

On the other hand, I fully approve of Han Solo in the top 10. He's my favourite film character of all. Totally iconic.
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 04/14/2009 :  13:40:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Conan The Westy

quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

You've got that right! And what about Citizen Kane, Mozart in Amadeus, Tracey Lord in Philadelphia Story and soooooooo many more!

Kane made it in at # 98 just above HAL-9000 & Martin Riggs


I've been staying away from this thread because I was sure it woulo upset me... and look up there, it did.

Cannot bear to even look at the list!!....

....carry on.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 04/15/2009 :  07:24:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Conan The Westy

quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

You've got that right! And what about Citizen Kane, Mozart in Amadeus, Tracey Lord in Philadelphia Story and soooooooo many more!

Kane made it in at # 98 just above HAL-9000 & Martin Riggs



See? Lousy list!
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Conan The Westy 
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"

Posted - 04/16/2009 :  06:01:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about the dearth of Adam Sandler characters???
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