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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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 Posted - 03/09/2010 : 10:53:22
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Originally posted by silly
Bigelow as "the first female director to win"
I was amazed to read that, and it did make me feel a bit better about it.
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My daughter, age 6, was thrilled that Up won an award. She went to bed happy
With all due respect to all the other animated films, I think it was a foregone conclusion that Up would take it. Just as we knew WALL-E would take it the year before and that Ratatouille would get it the year before that, and so on... Pixar - even now that they're with Disney - are winners every time, and rightly so!
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 10:54:44
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Originally posted by Koli
I'm very pleased that Christoph Waltz won best supporting actor for his performance in Inglourious Basterds. I thought he was tremendous as Hans Landa, the detective that just happened to work for the SS.
What was that joke?
There was a good joke about Waltz's character in IB - basically that he was always looking for Jews - and the hosts held their hands out wide and panned the Kodak Theater saying you've hit the mother lode.
Best line of the night for me.
You mean Baldwin and Martin said this? Hm...
I'm surprised no one took offence.
(Now if Jon Stewart had said it, that would have made me laugh!)
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 14:25:29
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
You mean Baldwin and Martin said this? Hm...
I'm surprised no one took offence.
(Now if Jon Stewart had said it, that would have made me laugh!)
It was Steve Martin, and people chuckled, but it wasn't one of his biggest laughs.
I felt that as for hosting, such as it is, they should have just given it to Steve; Alec seemed to be on autopilot and not really into it. But maybe that's just his style.
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 14:41:26
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I'm in agreement that Hurt Locker wasn't particularly deserving. I did enjoy it but wasn't blown away (ironic, considering the subject matter). Avatar, on the other hand, I found absolutely astounding. Yes, the script was pretty awful and yes, it was a bit flabby and could have been trimmed by a good 20-30 mins, but I was transfixed from beginning to end. That said, I wouldn't have thought it as a contender for Best Film - Best Entertainment, yes, but hardly a perfect offering.
I watched Inglorious Basterds on the Sunday evening having avoided it when it came out due to the depressing slide in quality that Tarantino films seem to have been on for the last decade. Loved it and thought Christopher Waltz fully deserved his award. I wouldn't have liked to see this win the big award either though.
Up was one of my favourite films of the year and I'm an advocate of the decision to start letting animated movies into the big prize - but not for this one, despite it now being probably my favourite Pixar film.
Up in the Air - great, glib, acidicly comic. Essentially flimsy though.
Precious, Blind Side, An Eucation, A Serious Man - Not seen
Disrtict 9 - Thoroughly enjoyable but just a daft sci-fi when it comes down to it, and any allegorical significance is just a coincidence as far as I'm concerned.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 14:43:49
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Regarding Steve Martin's joke - I can imagine. Racial double standard in ethnic jokes, doncha know. I can make fun of my own, but when you do it, I'm not going to find it funny.
When Jon Stewart did a Jewish joke at the Oscars there was a bit of a bother about it here in Israel. Then it all calmed down the minute someone pointed out that Jon is Jewish himself. (Much to my personal disappointment, "The Daily Show" never took off here so the Israeli public didn't know who he was at the time.)
But I've been displeased and disappointed with Steve Martin for some time now. It started a while back when he did a horrendous remake of Father of the Bride that was so cringe-worthy, I literally felt sick to my stomach (and could metaphorically feel the late, great Spencer Tracey turning in his grave). The only thing he's done lately to redeem himself is to jam on the banjo with Paul Simon on guitar on Connan.
(I think I prefer him as a banjo player.)
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 14:53:26
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
I can make fun of my own, but when you do it, I'm not going to find it funny.
That's a principle that more than a few people around here could do with learning. That said, while it sounds rather awkward and cringeworthy (I didn't see it), it seems like this case is one where he was sending up a sort of antisemitic stereotype (Hollywood being run by a Jewish mafia); it's not like he threw around offensive terms or something. |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 14:55:53
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat
A Serious Man - Not seen
If I were you, I'd correct this at your earliest opportunity. Highly recommended, if for no other reason than anyone who considers themselves even a little bit of a film buff shouldn't miss out on any Coen brothers movies, if at all possible. |
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silly
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 16:13:11
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BTW, here is Steve's "mother lode" joke. I'm not sure if Youtube works worldwide, my apologies if not.
It's 23 seconds long. |
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demonic
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 16:14:21
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
I can make fun of my own, but when you do it, I'm not going to find it funny.
That's a principle that more than a few people around here could do with learning. That said, while it sounds rather awkward and cringeworthy (I didn't see it), it seems like this case is one where he was sending up a sort of antisemitic stereotype (Hollywood being run by a Jewish mafia); it's not like he threw around offensive terms or something.
It wasn't awkward or cringeworthy at all - it was very funny. Contrary to what Silly said I seem to remember it getting one of the biggest, if not the biggest, laugh of the night. Certainly it was sustained long enough for him to have to wait quite a while after his initial gesture to the crowd before he delivered the "motherlode" line.
A few more things occurred to me that I didn't really get on the night:
George Clooney looked mighty pissed off all night long. I was under the impression that he was in on a gag with Alec Baldwin early on and was playing along with a "we hate each other" ruse, but every time you saw him during the ceremony he looked angry. Anyone got any idea what that was about?
Why did Mo'Nique say she was pleased that talent won out over political gameplaying when she won Best Supporting Actress?
There was no obvious political slant to any of her fellow nominees or their films. In anything, the political gameplaying would actually best describe her win as a minority actress were it not for the fact that she did actually give the best performance of the five.
Sandra Bullock said "did I wear you all down?" when she picked up her award. That's a little presumptious of her - somehow suggesting she'd been producing award worthy work her whole career and had been neglected all this time. Hardly. I'm not a fan of her work in the slightest - the only time I can think she had a crack at some acting as opposed to some movie-starring before now was in "Crash" and she was a bit embarrassing in that. It does make me wonder if her career is now going to dwindle or falter into a run of flops as is the curse of the female Oscar winner.... (see also Nicole Kidman, Charlize Theron, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Helen Hunt, Kim Basinger, Jennifer Connelly, Mira Sorvino, Julia Roberts, Halle Berry) although perhaps she doesn't really need Oscar's help to have a run of flops.  |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 17:04:30
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Originally posted by demonic
Why did Mo'Nique say she was pleased that talent won out over political gameplaying when she won Best Supporting Actress?
There was no obvious political slant to any of her fellow nominees or their films. In anything, the political gameplaying would actually best describe her win as a minority actress were it not for the fact that she did actually give the best performance of the five.
Hhmmm, that doesn't sound very gracious of her. I wonder what she meant.
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Sandra Bullock said "did I wear you all down?" when she picked up her award. That's a little presumptious of her - somehow suggesting she'd been producing award worthy work her whole career and had been neglected all this time.
No, I'm sure she didn't mean that. She meant having worn them down as opposed to being award-worthy, i.e. that she had been been kicking around making films for so long that she just happened to get an Oscar eventually. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 17:08:23
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Originally posted by demonic
George Clooney looked mighty pissed off all night long. I was under the impression that he was in on a gag with Alec Baldwin early on and was playing along with a "we hate each other" ruse, but every time you saw him during the ceremony he looked angry. Anyone got any idea what that was about?
Perhaps you were right first time. |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 17:15:16
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat
I'm in agreement that Hurt Locker wasn't particularly deserving. I did enjoy it but wasn't blown away (ironic, considering the subject matter). Avatar, on the other hand, I found absolutely astounding. Yes, the script was pretty awful and yes, it was a bit flabby and could have been trimmed by a good 20-30 mins, but I was transfixed from beginning to end. That said, I wouldn't have thought it as a contender for Best Film - Best Entertainment, yes, but hardly a perfect offering.
I watched Inglorious Basterds on the Sunday evening having avoided it when it came out due to the depressing slide in quality that Tarantino films seem to have been on for the last decade. Loved it and thought Christopher Waltz fully deserved his award. I wouldn't have liked to see this win the big award either though.
Up was one of my favourite films of the year and I'm an advocate of the decision to start letting animated movies into the big prize - but not for this one, despite it now being probably my favourite Pixar film.
Up in the Air - great, glib, acidicly comic. Essentially flimsy though.
Precious, Blind Side, An Eucation, A Serious Man - Not seen
Disrtict 9 - Thoroughly enjoyable but just a daft sci-fi when it comes down to it, and any allegorical significance is just a coincidence as far as I'm concerned.
So I'm in agreement with Demonic - just not a particularly good year for film.
Well, it's a shame you didn't see Precious. Not immediately obvious as a "large canvas" film. But -- especially considering this is only the director's 2nd feature -- it's a little gem of film, which deserves the cinema. It's definitely NOT telly. At least The Indie Spirit Awards saw sense.
Anyway - hope you get to see it. If and when -let us know what you reckon.
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 03/09/2010 : 17:24:51
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Originally posted by demonic
Why did Mo'Nique say she was pleased that talent won out over political gameplaying when she won Best Supporting Actress?
There was no obvious political slant to any of her fellow nominees or their films. In anything, the political gameplaying would actually best describe her win as a minority actress were it not for the fact that she did actually give the best performance of the five.
She meant - and made it clear in some of her pre-award interviews - that she declined to participate in the shameful [my word] media-political lobbying which the distributors force stars into. It's a political move, highly orchestrated, and shameful in that Academy voters allow their preferences to be swayed by such ploys over the actual quality of films and people. I'm afraid it's yet another example of b.o. quantity registers over quality. And explains why really small indie films rarely get a look in. The Academy's decision to expand the Best Film category to 10 was publicized as a direct response to that criticism. But that's really disingenuous. More nominees means more money at the b.o. And, my Droogies, that's what Oscar's all about.
My other bugbear is the way the media tries [too often succeeds] to whip up Oscar fever, giving the impression that the public, or they themselves, or reporting bookie odds, can make ANY difference to the results. The voting has been over LONG beforehand.
Suckers! 
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demonic
"Cinemaniac"
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Posted - 03/10/2010 : 01:03:29
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| That makes me think of the way that increasingly the presenters seem to be chosen as a veiled, and sometimes barely concealed, reference point to the winner in the unopened envelope. Why would Barbra Streisand ever be asked to present Best Director if it wasn't going to go to the first ever female winner of the award? It reminded me of the year Scorsese finally won Best Director for The Departed... and who walked out to present but his long time friend and colleague Steven Spielberg. |
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w22dheartlivie
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Posted - 03/10/2010 : 03:02:52
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by demonic
Why did Mo'Nique say she was pleased that talent won out over political gameplaying when she won Best Supporting Actress?
There was no obvious political slant to any of her fellow nominees or their films. In anything, the political gameplaying would actually best describe her win as a minority actress were it not for the fact that she did actually give the best performance of the five.
Hhmmm, that doesn't sound very gracious of her. I wonder what she meant.
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Sandra Bullock said "did I wear you all down?" when she picked up her award. That's a little presumptious of her - somehow suggesting she'd been producing award worthy work her whole career and had been neglected all this time.
No, I'm sure she didn't mean that. She meant having worn them down as opposed to being award-worthy, i.e. that she had been been kicking around making films for so long that she just happened to get an Oscar eventually.
I did understand Mo'Nique's comments as an allusion to the kiss em up game playing she was expected to and refused to do.
I'm like Salopian - I thought Bullock's comment was about having churned out both good and bad films for years and being repeatedly considered a "nice little romantic film star but no great actress", although there were certainly films she has made that I thought were a good showing for her. I'm delighted she won. I thought her acceptance speech was genuine and heartfelt. She wouldn't have shed a tear if she hadn't spoken to her mother.
As for Clooney, he seemed pissed off at several things, including the tendency of the cameramen to stick the camera in his face for *every* reaction he had. I wondered a couple times if the cameraman just had a huge crush on him. Or maybe he was hungover. And I thought it was decidedly a tell when Barbra Streisand gave the director award. |
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2010 Oscars
