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Yukon 
"Co-editor of FWFR book"
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 Posted - 07/21/2010 : 03:23:23
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It's finally up and running! Benj and I (but mostly Benj) have finished the FWFR book website.
www.fourwordbook.com
It was done mainly as a promotional tool. We have press photos, links to articles about the book as well as background info. If anybody has a friend who is a journalist, blogger or broadcaster, point them to the website for all the info they need to write a a story about FWFR.
Feel free to take a look around and tell us what you think (and don't be afriad to point out any spelling errors!). |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 03:37:05
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Originally posted by Yukon
don't be afriad to point out any spelling errors!
There's one.
Does there need to be a new thread every time there is something to say about the book? It would be a lot tidier and a lot easier to find things afterwards if everything were put in the main thread.
The red flash in the corner is rather aggressive, especially the NOW. The purchasing option on such a website would normally be one of the standard tabs, even if it leads to an external site.
PRAISE FOR FWFR
There are spaced hyphens when they should be spaced en-dashes (or only in North American usage they can be closed-up en-dashes). Some of the ellipses also have spaces before them, which they shouldn't in British usage (and I doubt in North American, but it's not out of the question); it's also not applied consistently. The use of stops after abbreviations is not consistent either. (This, especially, occurs throughout the website.)
The leading being different sizes due to different font sizes doesn't look good, especially when it's the only the result of large quotation marks. In the quotation where Movie begins a sentence, I'd remove the brackets as they look enormously bizarre. So long as you are faithful to the sense then it does not really matter if you have made a minor amendment like that. However, if you want to be strict then square brackets would be better. If you do that, make the other such instances square brackets too, although they don't look as bad at the moment.
Although it's the correct punctuation, I'd suggest removing the hyphen from four-word film reviews, so as not to contradict the name of the site and other instances. (It also tends to be capitalised elsewhere, even when not referring to the site name, which makes even less sense.)
The repeated use of four words or less (instead of fewer) in the quotations will annoy 'wordy' people who might well be interested in the book, even though I found a way for that to be correct when it was mentioned on another website.
The newspaper and film names should be italicised; and it's GoldenEye, not Goldeneye.
Although The Times (London) is better than the awful The Times of London that is so common, it should be The Times (U.K.) as the big British newspapers do not have the city-specific ties that American ones do.
No idea who Manny Farber is. Remember that most potential buyers will not know as much about films as you do.
The cinema seats are in the way of the down arrow on the sidebar. This means one has to click just in the general space below the moving part (whatever that is called), which is a bit uncomfortable as one cannot judge how far down that will take it, or drag it down, which is less likely on a laptop.
PHOTOS
Hhmmm. Let's say you should probably just stick to one each: that way you can determine which people will use (if they use any at all). Websites of novels normally only have one author picture so it comes across as a bit strange to find an album in there.
ABOUT THE AUTHORS
Benj and Yukon's names are capitalised, but the equivalent headings in the next tab are not.
I wondered why Yukon was always calling Benj Benji. Now I see why. 
I assume you want it to be as international as possible, so I'd suggest amending London, England as that sounds totally North American to us and changing math to mathematics.
The newspaper names should be italicised here too.
Roger Ebert-wannabes is perhaps rather negative.
Either simplify the list of countries or literally include all of them, e.g. India. Holland would be much better as the Netherlands.
The usernames being bracketed between the real names is rather confusing. It would be better to go for X 'Y' X or X X/Y or X X (Y). When someone's username is one of their real names it looks especially strange. At the moment, Benj is only down under his username. It would be better to use his real name, as the lower case contradicts his name higher up and doesn't look professional.
It sometimes uses U.K. and sometimes England/Wales, which looks odd. It would be better to just use one location for each person, as whether there are two for people who have moved is inconsistent, as is the order when two do appear. The use of American states instead of U.S.A. (in most but not all cases) makes it very U.S.-centric.
There's a space missing before India in aahaa's line. I'd capitalise FWFR wherever it appears, for consistency and because otherwise it will look like a jarring bunch of consonants to people not be used to it. Who woulda thunk it should have a question mark. The quotation marks are missing from the beginning of Benj's four words.
I've only skipped through after B, but you should use people's iconic usernames, not just ones they have just had for anniversaries &c., e.g. knockmesilly, not knockmesi10y.
FOR JOURNALISTS
I've e-mailed a track-changed version of the Word document to Benj.
The year is missing from the first film. I just skimmed through that list: the only other things I saw were North American punctuation and spelling, which I guess is 'correct' for the purposes here. However, I'd say that the format would be better if more similar to the PRAISE section, i.e. with reviews scattered across the width of the page. The reviews should also be far more prominent than tucked away in this tab -- they are after all certainly not only for journalists to be intrigued by! They should be on the front page (or at least some of them) as soon as one comes to the U.R.L.
CONTACT US
There's a full stop missing from the end of the second sentence.
THEATER
It would be better not to have Theater, but I know that North Americans don't use cinema as much as we do. Regardless of what it's called, it should be explained: I know that people will be directed there from the book, but if this site is mainly to promote the book then it will confuse a lot of people. It's also rather clunky how the film opens in front of the text: it disappears if one clicks elsewhere on the page, and the one I tried (the first one) is too large for the frame or whatever it is.
The superscripted dates are inexplicable, especially as there are so many other normal bracketed dates on the site. |
Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 07/21/2010 05:39:37 |
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AC 
"Returning FWFR Old-Timer"
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 04:03:39
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Originally posted by Yukon
It's finally up and running! Benj and I (but mostly Benj) have finished the FWFR book website.
www.fourwordbook.com
It was done mainly as a promotional tool. We have press photos, links to articles about the book as well as background info. If anybody has a friend who is a journalist, blogger or broadcaster, point them to the website for all the info they need to write a a story about FWFR.
Feel free to take a look around and tell us what you think (and don't be afriad to point out any spelling errors!).
Great stuff guys - keep up the excellent work. We're all proud of you! |
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 04:06:07
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Perhaps a link to The Book Depository since it's substantially cheaper - good for tight-arsed buyers - under the "Buy The Book Now" tab.
No mention of New Zealand under "Contributors"?  
Photos: Benj, why so serious? 
Overall, good site. Can't think of anything else.  |
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Improper Username 
"inappropriately amused"
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 04:32:43
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I like the cinema simulation very much.
I agree about benj's somber photos. I demand better ones! benj is such a cutie, use that to your advantage for promoting the book. How about three photos, each showing benj doing a different activity: on stage behind a mike; roller skating; playing the banjo. There should not be more pictures of Yukon than there are of benj, even though Yukon's pictures are good.
Don't dismiss Salopian's critique as mere pissiness (however tempting that may be). That's a lot of valuable free editing advice he's given you. :) |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 05:36:39
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Originally posted by Improper Username
Don't dismiss Salopian's critique
No critique: just a very basic sub-edit. As the website is already live, there isn't time to faff around. |
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benj clews 
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 08:35:33
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Originally posted by Se�n
Photos: Benj, why so serious?
I have smiley ones but my mouth does such weird things on camera that it looks like I've had a stroke. I'm going to see if I can get some more fun pics this week however. Much as I'd love to have me in skates or playing the banjo, etc... I just didn't think it was relevant for an article about FWFR the book. |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 08:59:49
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Yukon
don't be afriad to point out any spelling errors!
There's one.
Benj, on the contributor's page your quote isn't in quotes and isn't in italics.
Thanks for including my link, and when I get the preview of the book accepted, I'll give you that link too.
By the way, there's a friend of mine who does stuff on zazzle.co.uk to make extra money for himself. So I was curious and looked over the site. Playing around there (while designing myself some business cards for my possible new business) and I designed a coffee mug with the cover of the book. Came out looking pretty cool, actually. The T-Shirt with the site logo didn't work as well, since the one I copied from the site was a bit too small. Now, the thing is, I feel I shouldn't sell them myself, since the book is yours, even though my commission is pretty small, and I have a feeling it would take years to make enough to cash in at the minimum. Still, you might want to look into it and if so, I'll delete my two examples. I'll send you the link, if you want. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 10:15:26
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Originally posted by Salopian
It's also rather clunky how the film opens in front of the text: it disappears if one clicks elsewhere on the page, and the one I tried (the first one) is too large for the frame or whatever it is.
Not sure how a pop-up constitutes as 'clunky'- this is highly common practice around the web these days. Also, the first video fit fine when I tried- what screen resolution are you running at? |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 11:27:52
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Originally posted by Yukon
It's finally up and running! Benj and I (but mostly Benj) have finished the FWFR book website.
www.fourwordbook.com
It was done mainly as a promotional tool. We have press photos, links to articles about the book as well as background info. If anybody has a friend who is a journalist, blogger or broadcaster, point them to the website for all the info they need to write a a story about FWFR.
Feel free to take a look around and tell us what you think (and don't be afriad to point out any spelling errors!).
Wonderful job, guys! Just handed in my latest M* copy too late to include the url, but will have another piece in a few weeks and will definitely find a way to include it!!
Meanwhile - Yukie might consider sending a separate press release to each of the BBC radio and tv arts review progs - there's a good list of them on the main Beeb website, but lemme know if you want some help.
May the fwfr be with you!
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 22:46:16
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| Beautiful job, guys! Damn near perfect! |
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Chris C 
"Four words, never backwards."
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Posted - 07/21/2010 : 23:23:46
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| Great job, well done. |
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Improper Username
"inappropriately amused"
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 01:38:41
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Originally posted by benj clews
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Originally posted by Se�n
Photos: Benj, why so serious?
I have smiley ones but my mouth does such weird things on camera that it looks like I've had a stroke. I'm going to see if I can get some more fun pics this week however. Much as I'd love to have me in skates or playing the banjo, etc... I just didn't think it was relevant for an article about FWFR the book.
Aw, c'mon, show everyone what a fun guy you are! What kind of person does one expect to be the author of such a book? (Well, yeah, a nerd, but otherwise...) ;) |
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Conan The Westy
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 10:00:18
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| Yeah I'm on the site with my brother (whereas Mguyx's bro had to settle for the Old Spice commercial). |
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Chris C
"Four words, never backwards."
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 10:33:47
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Originally posted by Conan The Westy
Yeah I'm on the site with my brother (whereas Mguyx's bro had to settle for the Old Spice commercial).
Don't forget your daughter. |
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Conan The Westy
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"
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Posted - 07/22/2010 : 12:21:34
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Originally posted by Chris C
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Originally posted by Conan The Westy
Yeah I'm on the site with my brother (whereas Mguyx's bro had to settle for the Old Spice commercial).
Don't forget your daughter.
Oops.  (although I meant the book website) |
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