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| TitanPa |
Posted - 08/24/2006 : 20:27:26
Do you have a review thats almost the top voted review for a certain movie? Why not hold an election and find out the true winning review of that movie. Carful not to sling too much mud. Have your election commercial here:
The Movie Cool Runnings
My Fellow FWFRers. Corduroy Pillow has the highest review with "Icy Sled People" But my "High-Speed Dread People" is trailing behind. Dont you think My review is funnier. If My review wins....I will send more votes all around. Please vote for my review. I am TitanPa and I approve this message.
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| Josh the cat |
Posted - 09/22/2006 : 18:28:14
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Randall
Not sure I buy your "cognate" argument. Nope, upon reflection I'm sure I don't. This much I do know: any English-speaking teacher or editor [perhaps excluding yourself], at least on this side of the Pond and I dare say on your own as well, would correct the flawed usage "he is taller than me." As, once again, would me.
It is definitely a 'rule' that is in wide circulation, but so are or were not splitting infinitives and not having a preposition at the end of a sentence, both artificially introduced by erroneous analogy with Latin. Since it is an exception to the general order of things, then its origins definitely play a significant part in this. The difference may come from its not really being a preposition (which I initially assumed it was); it seems a bit like a conjunction.
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| randall |
Posted - 09/22/2006 : 17:03:03
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Randall
Not sure I buy your "cognate" argument. Nope, upon reflection I'm sure I don't. This much I do know: any English-speaking teacher or editor [perhaps excluding yourself], at least on this side of the Pond and I dare say on your own as well, would correct the flawed usage "he is taller than me." As, once again, would me.
It is definitely a 'rule' that is in wide circulation, but so are or were not splitting infinitives and not having a preposition at the end of a sentence, both artificially introduced by erroneous analogy with Latin. Since it is an exception to the general order of things, then its origins definitely play a significant part in this. The difference may come from its not really being a preposition (which I initially assumed it was); it seems a bit like a conjunction.
Not sure I know what you're talking about. [I got the first sentence entire; then you frickin lost me.] |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 09/14/2006 : 09:00:50
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Originally posted by Randall
Not sure I buy your "cognate" argument. Nope, upon reflection I'm sure I don't. This much I do know: any English-speaking teacher or editor [perhaps excluding yourself], at least on this side of the Pond and I dare say on your own as well, would correct the flawed usage "he is taller than me." As, once again, would me.
It is definitely a 'rule' that is in wide circulation, but so are or were not splitting infinitives and not having a preposition at the end of a sentence, both artificially introduced by erroneous analogy with Latin. Since it is an exception to the general order of things, then its origins definitely play a significant part in this. The difference may come from its not really being a preposition (which I initially assumed it was); it seems a bit like a conjunction. |
| randall |
Posted - 09/13/2006 : 18:48:19
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Randall
To get it right every time, simply imagine the understood missing word. You would never write, "...as many reviews as me have," no matter who prescribed the rule. [Pardon: "...as many reviews as me've got."] At least me wouldn't.
If one considers there to be a missing verb, then it would indeed certainly have to be the subject form. Instinct tells me there that isn't, although while I cannot prove this to myself I will assume that this is a real, naturally developed rule. However, "than" is cognate with "then", which suggests that "He is taller than I/me" comes from "He is taller, then I/me". For this, "He is taller, then me" sounds more natural, but this may be due to the same judgment as on the above, and on "It is I". So, as I say, for now I am convinced and will go with "than I". 
Not sure I buy your "cognate" argument. Nope, upon reflection I'm sure I don't. This much I do know: any English-speaking teacher or editor [perhaps excluding yourself], at least on this side of the Pond and I dare say on your own as well, would correct the flawed usage "he is taller than me." As, once again, would me. |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 09/13/2006 : 13:51:17
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Originally posted by Josh the cat
Really, I remember and move on from things that are very important to me, if I have no choice!
If you remember them, then you haven't moved on, and nor should you. Whether or not you choose to talk about the things you remember does not change this. |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 09/13/2006 : 13:41:29
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Originally posted by Randall
To get it right every time, simply imagine the understood missing word. You would never write, "...as many reviews as me have," no matter who prescribed the rule. [Pardon: "...as many reviews as me've got."] At least me wouldn't.
If one considers there to be a missing verb, then it would indeed certainly have to be the subject form. Instinct tells me there that isn't, although while I cannot prove this to myself I will assume that this is a real, naturally developed rule. However, "than" is cognate with "then", which suggests that "He is taller than I/me" comes from "He is taller, then I/me". For this, "He is taller, then me" sounds more natural, but this may be due to the same judgment as on the above, and on "It is I". So, as I say, for now I am convinced and will go with "than I". |
| Josh the cat |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 18:58:48
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Josh the cat
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Originally posted by Salopian
therefore, it's likely that I'm more bothered about individual cases than you are.
Or Randall could be 10 times more bothered, he just chooses to move on.
If he cared about that ten times as much as I do, he wouldn't move on, would he? People don't really move on from things they care about it.
Really, I remember and move on from things that are very important to me, if I have no choice! |
| randall |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 17:58:52
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Randall
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Originally posted by Salopian
You've got about ten times as many reviews as me, though;
As I.
Hhmmm, I can never decide whether that is a(n) historic (i.e. naturally developed) feature of English or one that was prescribed by nineteenth-century grammarians.
To get it right every time, simply imagine the understood missing word. You would never write, "...as many reviews as me have," no matter who prescribed the rule. [Pardon: "...as many reviews as me've got."] At least me wouldn't. |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 13:15:05
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Originally posted by Josh the cat
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Originally posted by Salopian
therefore, it's likely that I'm more bothered about individual cases than you are.
Or Randall could be 10 times more bothered, he just chooses to move on.
If he cared about that ten times as much as I do, he wouldn't move on, would he? People don't really move on from things they care about it. |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 09/12/2006 : 13:13:10
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Originally posted by Randall
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Originally posted by Salopian
You've got about ten times as many reviews as me, though;
As I.
Hhmmm, I can never decide whether that is a(n) historic (i.e. naturally developed) feature of English or one that was prescribed by nineteenth-century grammarians. |
| randall |
Posted - 08/30/2006 : 14:42:18
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Originally posted by Salopian
You've got about ten times as many reviews as me, though;
As I. |
| Josh the cat |
Posted - 08/30/2006 : 13:58:25
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Originally posted by Willy Weasel
Josh you appear to have steered a new "Vote for me because I'm trailing the leader." thread to a "Vote for my friend/personal favourite which is already leading." After a rather surprising first election campaign this could all get very confusing. As far as your nominated film is concerned I agree that Rovark has a tasty review but I would rather see a recently approved starter top the menu. 
Well you got my vote(but so did Rovark), good luck with the electioneering.
Josh the cat. |
| Josh the cat |
Posted - 08/30/2006 : 13:53:29
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Originally posted by Salopian
therefore, it's likely that I'm more bothered about individual cases than you are.
Or Randall could be 10 times more bothered, he just chooses to move on.
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Originally posted by Salopian
Conversely, I couldn't care less how few accolades I have achieved; different aspects of the site are important to different people.
True very true.
Josh the cat |
| Demisemicenturian |
Posted - 08/30/2006 : 12:02:59
You've got about ten times as many reviews as me, though; therefore, it's likely that this has happened about ten times as often to you (although perhaps not the most severe case that I have described); therefore, it's likely that I'm more bothered about individual cases than you are. Conversely, I couldn't care less how few accolades I have achieved; different aspects of the site are important to different people. |
| randall |
Posted - 08/29/2006 : 18:10:38
I've also had identical reviews accepted after mine was rejected. I just shrug my shoulders; it's probably happened in reverse to several others. I find that the karmic wheel tends to even things out in the long run. |
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