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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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 Posted - 04/29/2006 : 07:24:48
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Please note: this is NOT a complaint, and I grovel with gratitude that you've been paying my reviews attention. But I confess I'm baffled  
Here's the thing: I've created an accolade about film musicals based on other media - books, plays, other films. There are ten in my list. All my reviews deliberaterly follow a pattern, framed as though they were movie poster taglines. One of these reviews has been approved, and so far five have been rejected, despite following the exact same pattern. They're all factually correct, and I've provided an explanation of what I'm doing in the extra info box.
Okay, the reviews aren't punny or funny, but there are plenty like that around. None is over 4 words. So,can someone please tell me why these are being rejected.
NOT A COMPLAINT.
TIA from one BaffledBabe
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bife 
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 09:18:26
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 11:09:32
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Originally posted by bife
Can't suggest possibilities unless we know the review, huh
Okay bife-boy, here they are:
Approved: Scrooge = Christmas Carol! The Musical!
Rejected so far:
Cabaret = Isherwood's Camera! The Musical!
Kiss Me Kate = Tamed Shrew! The Musical!
West Side Story = Romeo! Juliet! The Musical!
Oklahoma = Riggs' Lilacs! The Musical!
Mame = Auntie Mame! The Musical!
Pending, but I bet will be rejected also:
Carmen Jones = Bizet's Carmen! The Musical!
My Fair Lady = Pygmalion! The Musical!
Chicago = Roxie Hart! The Musical!
Hello Dolly = The Matchmaker! The Musical!
Thanks for any insight,
Baffled-Baffy
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bife
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 11:21:56
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Assuming them to be accurate, then I am as baffled as you.
I can't say I really know the movies though (was never a fan of musicals), so i could be missing something
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Edited by - bife on 04/29/2006 11:28:25 |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 11:41:25
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Originally posted by bife
Assuming them to be accurate, then I am as baffled as you.
I can't say I really know the movies though (was never a fan of musicals), so i could be missing something
Sorry.
So, do two baffles = a biffle?
Maybe some kindhearted benj/MERP will reconsider, she hoped humbly.
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 11:41:55
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Originally posted by bife
Assuming them to be accurate, then I am as baffled as you.
I can't say I really know the movies though (was never a fan of musicals), so i could be missing something
Sorry.
So, do two baffles = a biffle?
Maybe some kindhearted benj/MERP will reconsider, she hoped humbly.
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demonic
"Cinemaniac"
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 12:49:03
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They seem fine BB, all I can think is that most of them need an explanation if you know nothing at all about musicals. Actually even if you do, I know musicals very well and I wouldn't have understood the Cabaret or Oklahoma ones out of context. If you resubmitted all with the source material in the explanation box I should think they'd go through. (As a point of punctuation I'd be inclined to a hyphen, exclamation though - e.g. Bizet's Carmen - The Musical!)
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 13:45:56
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Originally posted by demonic
They seem fine BB, all I can think is that most of them need an explanation if you know nothing at all about musicals. Actually even if you do, I know musicals very well and I wouldn't have understood the Cabaret or Oklahoma ones out of context. If you resubmitted all with the source material in the explanation box I should think they'd go through. (As a point of punctuation I'd be inclined to a hyphen, exclamation though - e.g. Bizet's Carmen - The Musical!)
Good luck!
Okay, thanks demo ... I'll resubmit as you suggest. Of course, the whole raison d'etre of the accolade is musicals with origins in other media. Perhaps there could be a way to flag up reviews we're constructing specifically for certain accolades. Because benj clearly has too much time on his hands
Thanks, to you all.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 15:05:57
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
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Originally posted by bife
Can't suggest possibilities unless we know the review, huh
Okay bife-boy, here they are:
Approved: Scrooge = Christmas Carol! The Musical!
Rejected so far:
Cabaret = Isherwood's Camera! The Musical!
I'd put an explination in your review and resubmit that one.
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Kiss Me Kate = Tamed Shrew! The Musical!
I'm thinking that this might be similar to another review there.
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West Side Story = Romeo! Juliet! The Musical!
Again, there may already be another review like that already.
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Oklahoma = Riggs' Lilacs! The Musical!
Okay, I don't understand this one. If you can explain it to me, then perhaps you can add that explination to your review.
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Mame = Auntie Mame! The Musical!
Sorry, I haven't a clue why they didn't accept this. While it is a touch simplistic, it certainly is accurate. Mame is the musical version of the play Auntie Mame.
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Pending, but I bet will be rejected also:
Carmen Jones = Bizet's Carmen! The Musical!
Um... I'm wondering if using Bizet's music, and changing the lyrics actually makes this a "musical". Still... it doesn't apply to any of the other versions of Carmen, so I'm not sure why they'd reject it.
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My Fair Lady = Pygmalion! The Musical!
Works for me, if a tad generic.
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Chicago = Roxie Hart! The Musical!
Also works for me. Of course, you might want to explain this to the MERPs.
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Hello Dolly = The Matchmaker! The Musical!
I'm wondering if they might find this too generic, despite it being totally accurate.
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Thanks for any insight,
Baffled-Baffy
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Stalean 
"Back...OMG"
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 15:17:09
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I have also been wondering about a couple of reviews that were declined as generic:
Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise/race car driver) = "Transmission: Impossible."
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Take the Lead (Antonio Banderas/dance instructor) = "Mad Hot Banderas" (i.e. "Mad Hot Ballroom") |
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benj clews 
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 16:33:34
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Originally posted by StaLean
I have also been wondering about a couple of reviews that were declined as generic:
Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise/race car driver) = "Transmission: Impossible."
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Take the Lead (Antonio Banderas/dance instructor) = "Mad Hot Banderas" (i.e. "Mad Hot Ballroom")
On that second one, I'd definitey say it's generic.
First guess if I saw that would be 'Assassins', for which it definitely fits better than any other film. After that, I'd probably guess on one of the 'Desperado' films. |
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duh
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 17:29:25
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Originally posted by StaLean
I have also been wondering about a couple of reviews that were declined as generic:
Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise/race car driver) = "Transmission: Impossible."
I like that one. I would vote for it. MERPs, you erred on that rejection. 
EDIT: Please see apology for poor attempt at humorous hyperbole on next page. |
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Yukon
"Co-editor of FWFR book"
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 18:05:25
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Hey BAFTA,
I had a similiar experience. I had this review for Scary Movie 4 for approved:
"Scary Movie is 4gettable"
But then reviews for other "4th" movies such as Police Academy 4 (Police Academy is 4gettable) and Critters (Critters is 4gettable) were declined.
I wondered if the MERPS thought it was cheating, trying to ram through 15 reviews that were essentially the same. My feeling (about yours and mine) is that each was a unique review, even though they followed the same pattern, and should have been approved.
BENJI -- do you frown upon mass submissions such as "...is 4gettable" or "...The Musical"
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 18:42:14
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Originally posted by Yukon
Hey BAFTA,
I had a similiar experience. I had this review for Scary Movie 4 for approved:
"Scary Movie is 4gettable"
But then reviews for other "4th" movies such as Police Academy 4 (Police Academy is 4gettable) and Critters (Critters is 4gettable) were declined.
I wondered if the MERPS thought it was cheating, trying to ram through 15 reviews that were essentially the same. My feeling (about yours and mine) is that each was a unique review, even though they followed the same pattern, and should have been approved.
BENJI -- do you frown upon mass submissions such as "...is 4gettable" or "...The Musical"
Yer Yuke support is greatly appreciated
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benj clews
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 19:36:49
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Originally posted by dazzling untamed horse
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Originally posted by StaLean
I have also been wondering about a couple of reviews that were declined as generic:
Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise/race car driver) = "Transmission: Impossible."
I like that one. I would vote for it. MERPs, you erred on that rejection.
Sorry, but just because you would vote on a review doesn't necessarily mean it should be on the site 
There are more reasons needed for a review to be here than because it by itself is funny or clever and whilst I may sometimes overrule the MERPs decisions you should try and respect their decisions. This is a hard job for all of us and telling MERPs they are flat out wrong isn't helping anyone. |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 04/30/2006 : 04:35:30
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Originally posted by StaLean
I have also been wondering about a couple of reviews that were declined as generic:
Days of Thunder (Tom Cruise/race car driver) = "Transmission: Impossible."
Not sure I'd agree this is generic, as the racing/Cruise/MI link makes it reasonably specific to that film. But, is it actually a correct review? I saw the film a long time ago, but don't recall something 'impossible' about a transmission, but that might just be my goldfish memory. I.e., the review states that a transmission is impossible, I'm not sure I get it. But, if something happened in the movie that makes it correct, e.g., they were trying to get a new transmission flown in from elsewhere 2 hours before a race or something and it was an impossible schedule, then you could argue it's correct (and a nice pun on an associated film title) and a resubmission would be in order.
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