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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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 Posted - 01/25/2007 : 02:32:24
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Pretending that there is no real problem is not, again IMHO, really in the best interests of the site.
I've been around long enough to know that this problem has existed for years, and exists whatever measures have been taken to alleviate it. Essentially the faster reviews get processed, the faster people write them and fill up their pending piles, not to mention that as people write more and faster the 'quality' drops.
More MERPs is one solution, another would be a daily/weekly/monthly cap on submissions. This would keep the backlog down and keep quality up. |
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 02:42:01
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
I also have pass 1 reviews that are months old, however, I'm not paying any money to be here, I wait aslong as it takes.
Of course you wait as long as it takes - you have no choice.
On the other hand you have had 63 reviews approved over the last week and I have had 12 (with a pending pile of around 270).
Cause it's a free site, if I was paying membership, I would complian about it.
You might "complain" but you would still have to wait. Personally I am not complaining, I am suggesting a way of alleviating a problem. I don't even think it's particularly helpful to categorise Stroll's post as a complaint.
However, the question arises as to whether everyone is waiting, on average, the same amount of time relative to their pending pile. If our pending piles are dealt with at the same rate, over the last week, you would have 1300 pending and Randall would have 2000. 
Maybe that is the case?
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thefoxboy 
"Four your eyes only."
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 03:28:05
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
I also have pass 1 reviews that are months old, however, I'm not paying any money to be here, I wait aslong as it takes.
Of course you wait as long as it takes - you have no choice.
On the other hand you have had 63 reviews approved over the last week and I have had 12 (with a pending pile of around 270).
Cause it's a free site, if I was paying membership, I would complian about it.
You might "complain" but you would still have to wait. Personally I am not complaining, I am suggesting a way of alleviating a problem. I don't even think it's particularly helpful to categorise Stroll's post as a complaint.
However, the question arises as to whether everyone is waiting, on average, the same amount of time relative to their pending pile. If our pending piles are dealt with at the same rate, over the last week, you would have 1300 pending and Randall would have 2000.
Maybe that is the case?
I didn't say anyone was complaining, I said I would if I was paying a membership.
1300 pending? not quite. 
When I first registered on this site, the wait was much worse than it is now. I took time to study trends and patterns to the approval process. This was before the MERPS where introduced. Some of them still work, others don't.
Before anyone asks, no, I'm not telling.  |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 03:32:06
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
However, the question arises as to whether everyone is waiting, on average, the same amount of time relative to their pending pile. If our pending piles are dealt with at the same rate, over the last week, you would have 1300 pending and Randall would have 2000.
If someone writes 100 in a day then none for the next three weeks, then theoretically they'd have 100 processed in a batch, then none for the next three weeks. Mine get processed in batches as I review in batches, although it tends to be 5 in a day then none for a few weeks. |
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 09:15:29
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
I also have pass 1 reviews that are months old, however, I'm not paying any money to be here, I wait aslong as it takes.
Money isn't needed though - more MERPs are. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 09:17:10
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Originally posted by Se�n
More MERPs is one solution, another would be a daily/weekly/monthly cap on submissions. This would keep the backlog down and keep quality up.
I'd prefer the former, but I would be content with the latter too (though by month would be the best as some reviewers, e.g. you and me, work in fits and starts). |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 09:18:27
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
However, the question arises as to whether everyone is waiting, on average, the same amount of time relative to their pending pile.
I've had very good reasons to believe, at times, that this is not the case. |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 09:55:37
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
However, the question arises as to whether everyone is waiting, on average, the same amount of time relative to their pending pile.
I've had very good reasons to believe, at times, that this is not the case.
I've noticed that Benj has been working very hard at getting all the new films requested added to the database. This may be part of the cause for some of the backlog on the reviews to the already present movies. Just a thought.
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 10:19:57
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
However, the question arises as to whether everyone is waiting, on average, the same amount of time relative to their pending pile.
I've had very good reasons to believe, at times, that this is not the case.
I've noticed that Benj has been working very hard at getting all the new films requested added to the database. This may be part of the cause for some of the backlog on the reviews to the already present movies.
Yes, he has been, but this doesn't affect the inconsistency between different people's waiting periods. |
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thefoxboy
"Four your eyes only."
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 10:27:38
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
I also have pass 1 reviews that are months old, however, I'm not paying any money to be here, I wait aslong as it takes.
Money isn't needed though - more MERPs are.
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 10:34:51
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
I also have pass 1 reviews that are months old, however, I'm not paying any money to be here, I wait aslong as it takes.
Money isn't needed though - more MERPs are.
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What do you mean?
I meant that it is irrelevant to mention money since the solution is available for free. It is nothing to do with costs incurred by Benj by providing this site. |
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stroll 
"Husband, Father. Smithsmothsmuthen. Muppetologist."
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 19:40:25
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[quote]Originally posted by Whippersnapper
"...I don't even think it's particularly helpful to categorise Stroll's post as a complaint."
I agree. I was not trying to complain. I was merely participating in the forum with my experience. I am willing to help in any way alleviate the difficulties that beset so many here. I do find it interesting that people have time to respond to what I write in this forum but do not have time to respond to the reviews which after all, are four words long or less.
(That by the way is a joke, I have a dry sense of humor. I don't want or need anyone to explain to me that the people responding in the forum are not the same people reviewing our submissions.)
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thefoxboy
"Four your eyes only."
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Posted - 01/25/2007 : 20:47:03
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by thefoxboy
I also have pass 1 reviews that are months old, however, I'm not paying any money to be here, I wait aslong as it takes.
Money isn't needed though - more MERPs are.
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What do you mean?
I meant that it is irrelevant to mention money since the solution is available for free. It is nothing to do with costs incurred by Benj by providing this site.
Exactly, I was saying that if there was money involved, like a membership, then I would be thinking....Geez, what's going on here?, I pay a membership to be here and I have to wait this long for a review to be processed.
Seeing that there is no membership payment, I just sit and wait, happily. |
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 01/26/2007 : 04:47:30
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Abouth 'batches' - my batches of reviews - whether for the same film or a number of films at one sitting - do not get approved at the same time. My approvals do not come through in the order of submitting. I think I asked this question before, but do MERPs get one person's reviews to approve, or are they farmed out in some other way - by date of film, alphabetically etc. Does each MERP have a different system - that would be another reason for why a later review of the same film gets through first.
Also, do the top reviewers on the site get preference? I wouldn't argue with that - they are so far ahead of the rest of us it's irrelevant, but I have noticed that the top ten to twenty reviewers get handfuls of films approved at one time. Like I say, the 'batch' theory doesn't work for me, as I might have four reviews for one film, but one sneaks through, then another a few days later etc. Also, it always seems to be a top reviewer that once a new film has been added gets their reviews for that film added pretty quickly.
Now that I understand this site better, I too have realised that there's no point in fretting about my backlog of reviews, I just log in every couple of days and see how I'm going. I had about 10 looked recently, half and half passed and rejected. The rejections still 'upset' me, but I'm learning.
About advertising the site - I think I raised in another thread the FAQs and having something much more standout on the home page (rather than just the FAQs button at the top) stating that reviews WILL take time, and also the advice on what gets rejected. I think that advertising this site would be good, if the fact of reading the reviews as part of the enjoyment of the site is highlighted too. That's of course the other fun part. I laugh out loud sometimes. Oh, and I'm a very generous vote giver. I read all the reviews on a film, and simply vote on each one that makes me laugh, or that I think is particularly clever.
The Fourum is a highlight too - new people can easily get into that
If anyone's got time can they check out my thread 'What is a review?'. I had three rejected that I can't work out what I need to do with to make them acceptable. This is what I'm focussing my time on now, trying to perfect the reviews! I've had more rejected than accepted, for sure.
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/26/2007 : 07:14:28
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Originally posted by Shiv
Abouth 'batches' - my batches of reviews - whether for the same film or a number of films at one sitting - do not get approved at the same time. My approvals do not come through in the order of submitting. I think I asked this question before, but do MERPs get one person's reviews to approve, or are they farmed out in some other way - by date of film, alphabetically etc. Does each MERP have a different system - that would be another reason for why a later review of the same film gets through first.
The way I understand it, MERPs can process in order of submission, i.e., oldest first, or they can process by movie, i.e., see whatever pending reviews there are for a movie and process them.quote:
Also, do the top reviewers on the site get preference? I wouldn't argue with that - they are so far ahead of the rest of us it's irrelevant, but I have noticed that the top ten to twenty reviewers get handfuls of films approved at one time.
Have you ever wondered why they're the Top Reviewers? That's because they've got nothing better to do with their time than write reviews, whether they're at home or supposedly at work. They're total fwfr addicts, have been for years, write far more reviews than 'normal' people  , hence have more processed.  quote:
Also, it always seems to be a top reviewer that once a new film has been added gets their reviews for that film added pretty quickly.
That's comes with experience and observation. They see a new movie added, realise that somebody (benj perhaps?) will want to add some reviews to the movie, so they submit some pronto. Not to mention that the old hands know the rules well, and know the type of review that conforms to the rules and will be accepted. I very seldom have reviews declined, as I've been here long enough to know what the rules are. And when I do get a decline it's a marginal one that I'm not surprised about.quote:
The rejections still 'upset' me, but I'm learning.
That's totally normal. Newbies always get plenty of declines. Check out CP's page. These are awesome reviews by the bucketload, but she's said in the past that when she started she had a decline rate of about 90%. Perseverance. quote:
About advertising the site - I think I raised in another thread the FAQs and having something much more standout on the home page (rather than just the FAQs button at the top) stating that reviews WILL take time, and also the advice on what gets rejected.
This has proved notoriously hard to pin down in the past. The best idea is to read through the numerous threads by other newbies in the past where this has been discussed. If one of us oldies had bothered we would have made a page of links to previous discussions on rules/reviews which would save newbies a lot of time. Now I'm feeling guilty about not having bothered doing this in the past.  quote:
Oh, and I'm a very generous vote giver. I read all the reviews on a film, and simply vote on each one that makes me laugh, or that I think is particularly clever.
Exactly the way I vote.  |
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