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Yukon 
"Co-editor of FWFR book"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  04:09:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hear Ye! Hear Ye! I deem a new FYC rule that from here on in must be followed.

You are not allowed to put a spoiler review in the FYC without labelling it. There are some reviews where this doesn't matter too much -- older movies that most people have seen. I don't think too many people would be shocked to know that Rosebud was a sled.

BUT IF THE MOVIE IS STILL IN THE THEATRES, AND YOU'RE REVIEW IS A SPOILER, TELL ME THAT BEFORE I CHECK OUT YOUR REVIEWS.

I don't mean to pick on one person in particular, but for the sake making sure no one else does this, I'm saying this publically, instead of PMing.

Conan, a few FYCs ago your review gave away the ending of The Departed. (Fortunately, I had already seen the film). Now, in the latest FYC, you gave away the ending of Blood Diamond (I film I wanted to see but haven't).

There's a very simple solution. In the FYC, simply say "Warning, my (insert movie name) review is a spoiler. If you choose not to view my FYC, please vote for five other reviews of mine." It's such a simple thing to do.
And I think every voter should be required to give the reviewer five votes if the pass on looking at his 5 reviews. The reviewer should be rewarded for putting up a spoiler label, not penalized by getting fewer votes.

If you are on this site, it is because you are a movie fan. And there is nothing a true movie fan hates more than having the ending of a film they want to see ruined. (Except for watching Adam Sandler movies, that's really annoying...)

I hope this message doesn't come across as too harsh Conan. I'm NOT super upset about this, but a warning just seems like common sense to me.

thefoxboy 
"Four your eyes only."

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  04:12:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yukon
I don't think too many people would be shocked to know that Rosebud was a sled.




Well, thanks for that.
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  04:20:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thefoxboy

quote:
Originally posted by Yukon
I don't think too many people would be shocked to know that Rosebud was a sled.




Well, thanks for that.



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GHcool 
"Forever a curious character."

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  07:01:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yukon

And I think every voter should be required to give the reviewer five votes if the pass on looking at his 5 reviews. The reviewer should be rewarded for putting up a spoiler label, not penalized by getting fewer votes.



I definately think spoilers should be labeled, but I disagree that the 5 vote penalty should be required since I don't ordinarily vote for all 5 of the FYC's on every FYC.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  07:20:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

quote:
Originally posted by Yukon

And I think every voter should be required to give the reviewer five votes if the pass on looking at his 5 reviews. The reviewer should be rewarded for putting up a spoiler label, not penalized by getting fewer votes.



I definately think spoilers should be labeled, but I disagree that the 5 vote penalty should be required since I don't ordinarily vote for all 5 of the FYC's on every FYC.



Agreed, and agreed. I think that it might be a nice idea (but not manditory) for those posting spoiler reviews to give us a link to five alternative reviews which we can vote on or not.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:13:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Yukon

Rosebud was a sled.

I did not know this, but also have no idea to what it refers, so please do not explain.

When a film came out should make no difference. People should label all spoilers - it only takes five seconds to write "There is a spoiler for X."
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:14:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

I definately think spoilers should be labeled, but I disagree that the 5 vote penalty should be required since I don't ordinarily vote for all 5 of the FYC's on every FYC.


Agreed, and agreed.


I agree with this too - I'll always find five to vote on, but I don't want to be told I must do so.
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Conan The Westy 
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:18:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oops.
Wasn't even worth entering... only got 2 votes.

Edited by - Conan The Westy on 01/29/2007 10:19:52
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:30:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

quote:
When a film came out should make no difference. People should label all spoilers - it only takes five seconds to write "There is a spoiler for X."


I don't agree with this. Firstly, what is a spoiler? And how does it affect films that have been out forever?

Secondly, the statute of limitations on anything considered a spoiler should be until it leaves the theatres. You can always be careful with the reviews of a film you haven't seen, however old it might be; but I think it is too much to ask for people to label spoilers, whatever they might be, for perennial classics. If you haven't seen them already, you really should have.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:35:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ali

Firstly, what is a spoiler?

People have tried to suggest before that any old plot point is a spoiler - not true. Only things which really are unexpected when watching the film are spoilers - most films cannot have spoilers.
quote:
Secondly, the statute of limitations on anything considered a spoiler should be until it leaves the theatres.

Rubbish. It takes so little time to indicate a spoiler that this cannot be considered inconvenient for anybody.

Um, and since when did we call them 'theatres' in this country?
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:36:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The butler did it.

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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

quote:
Um, and since when did we call them 'theatres' in this country?


We call them both in this country.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  10:56:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ali


quote:
Um, and since when did we call them 'theatres' in this country?


We call them both in this country.


Who does? When? I have never heard anyone use it here in my life!
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  11:02:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Not only do they use it here, but they also use it there, too.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  11:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

The butler did it.



That's not a spoiler because everyone knows he didn't do it!

(Damn those Charlie Chan movies.)
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 01/29/2007 :  11:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Ali


quote:
Um, and since when did we call them 'theatres' in this country?


We call them both in this country.


Who does? When? I have never heard anyone use it here in my life!



Now your just looking for a fight!!

I think calling cinemas Movie theatres is a sweet throwback, they are referred to as theatres here as well but usually by the older generation.
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