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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 02/13/2007 :  11:21:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian

Yep, I've always thought it completely bizarre that most people don't use the best translation available.



I've always thought it inconvenient to use any translation at all.

(That is, of the Old Testament. [insert smug smilie here])
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"

Posted - 02/13/2007 :  15:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Yep, I've always thought it completely bizarre that most people don't use the best translation available.



I've always thought it inconvenient to use any translation at all.

(That is, of the Old Testament. [insert smug smilie here])



Wow. You read ancient Greek and Aramaic? Cool!

You'd have to open up the Holy Ark itself to find a version in the original ancient Hebrew. And we all know what will happen if you try to do that (faces melting, etc), assuming you can even find it (there's a small church in Ethiopia that claims to have the original Ark itself but only the Priest is allowed to see it so nobody can prove it).

Anyway, we need to bring this conversation back to the subject at hand, which is: why this movie looks so very, very lame.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 02/24/2007 :  22:22:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This turned out to be a lot better than I expected. It is still a generic thriller in many ways, but all the crazy numerology stuff is actually presented as being crazy.

I saw it yesterday (the 23rd), of course. In case any British people care, Michael and Aisleyne from Big Brother were sitting right behind me!

I cannot really understand why Carrey's son, who according to story can be at most twelve (unless he is a step-son, which isn't stated) looks about sixteen.
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 02/24/2007 :  22:59:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just seen this. Some excellent direction by Schumacher. Title credits really amazing -- remember Se7en? best I've seen since then. One particular special effect quite near the end which blew me away. I always like Jim Carrey - yeah, even when he's OTT, which he isn't here.
BUTBUTBUTBUTBUTBUTBUTBUTBUT

[doncha hate a film with a big but]

The story is SO LAME [and it could have been excellent which is even more frustrating] ... first time screenwriter I think. IT SHOWS!!!!

Don't worry I won't spoiler it, but if you honestly don't guess the punchline you just haven't seen enough films



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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 02/24/2007 :  23:31:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe

Title credits really amazing -- remember Se7en?

Yes. No.
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I always like Jim Carrey - yeah, even when he's OTT, which he isn't here.

Me too.
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The story is SO LAME [and it could have been excellent which is even more frustrating]

Yep, it's a good concept wasted, but since I expected it to be a bad concept, I was pleased!

The ending is unbearably dire and sappy, though. Very annoying.
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Don't worry I won't spoiler it, but if you honestly don't guess the punchline you just haven't seen enough films

I had already added a spoiler warning to the thread so that I could make my point above (i.e. that the trailer is misleadingly bad, which made the film a nice surprise for me), so you can go ahead and say anything you want.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 02/24/2007 23:54:19
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 02/24/2007 :  23:41:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's another inconsistency:

I cannot remember their names, but the book character meets the blonde on his 32nd birthday, then has sex later that day with the Italian. It is then stated that he met the Italian when he was 32. So unless he met her on the same day, which is not how it comes across, it doesn't add up. At least it can be passed off as being from Carrey's craziness when writing the book, but I didn't get the impression that it was meant to be.
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