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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  03:10:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not dismissing demonic having responded as he did - I am just denying that that is my responsibility.

The issue here is a more specific one than that in the other thread, though. Even if all actually offensive reviews were disallowed, a separate decision would then have to be made about reviews which people could misinterpret as being offensive.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 02/17/2007 03:20:02
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  03:17:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

I am not dismissing demonic responded as he did - I am just denying that that is my responsibility.



Not coming down on either side, you guys can duke that one out! Just playing the devil's advocate
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  03:19:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  16:39:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No real conflict (diamond?) required. It is just a difference of opinion - and it's definitely an interesting arguement. I feel that my reviews are my responsibility, and if one of them offended, even unintentionally it might change my opinion on that review and whether it was worth keeping.

Very briefly to answer a few points from above -

I didn't write "this is racist (and possibly generic)" because the potentially generic aspect wasn't the focal point of my post, obviously. Also, human beings are on the whole, fallible, and unlike someone keen to score points, I don't forsee all angles of a conversation beforehand.

As for diamonds and spades the first one that sprang to mind was 'King Solomon's Mines', and that alone has been filmed three times.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  20:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Also, these 'generic' and racist points contradict each other. If a spade is so likely in any film about diamonds, then how can it be that it would not be thought of?



Was there no Sam Spade movie about finding lost diamonds?
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thefoxboy 
"Four your eyes only."

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  22:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Also, these 'generic' and racist points contradict each other. If a spade is so likely in any film about diamonds, then how can it be that it would not be thought of?



Was there no Sam Spade movie about finding lost diamonds?




You mean this one?
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 02/17/2007 :  23:39:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

No, she means THIS one!
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 02/18/2007 :  06:15:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper


No, she means THIS one!




Whippa's right - I'd already voted on your review, foxy.

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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 02/19/2007 :  16:27:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by demonic

I feel that my reviews are my responsibility, and if one of them offended, even unintentionally it might change my opinion on that review and whether it was worth keeping.

This is certainly a valid point. In particular, I would be probably delete it if requested to by someone. My main reticence then would only be the fact that there are so many reviews with actually offensive content here. My ideal would be that Benj would have a policy on these issues.
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I didn't write "this is racist (and possibly generic)" because the potentially generic aspect wasn't the focal point of my post, obviously.

Fine, but when saying that someone may be being racist, I think it's best to explicitly mention other possibilities that one has thought of. Otherwise, it is sure to come across as that one does think the person is being racist. Note that even your suggested wording above would not be reasonable, though. You would still be stating that the review were racist, and just that it might be 'generic' in addition.
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As for diamonds and spades the first one that sprang to mind was 'King Solomon's Mines', and that alone has been filmed three times.

I don't remember a spade in the one that I saw; I'll defer to your knowledge on the other two. As I say, if Benj declines it for being too generic, that is fine by me. Also, don't all those films also feature black people? Since your racist interpretation therefore seems at least as 'generic' (more so, I would say) as the straightforward interpretation, it seems strange that the 'generic' potential of the latter made you think my review was more likely to be racist.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 02/19/2007 16:52:10
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