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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  09:15:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

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Originally posted by Randall

You should have been here before there were MERPs. Poor benj: while he was trying to manage a growing site alone, the wait time was measured in months. That's why some of us geezers shake our heads at people complaining about the current gap. No offense meant, but two weeks ain't so bad!

I would say that the wait time is still months (though obviously this won't be the case if the backlog is eliminated), at least for many films. Benj said that there was a record backlog, not just the record since there had been MERPs.


However, since you were here before there were MERPS, you must admit that the introduction of multiple editors cut the wait time to a diminuitive fraction of its former self. Mustn't you? That's all I was saying, as you well know.


It initially cut it and then it came back to what it had been before (or longer). You seemed to be highlighting that the wait time used to be months as if that was not what it was before the recent spate of approvals (and still is for some reviews).

However, just to be clear, I do think that waiting times would be much worse still without the MERPs, and their current efforts are particularly commendable.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 03/12/2007 10:28:53
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  13:44:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Benj

I notice that if a review is refused for being over the limit - I only had a couple officer! - when it is resubmitted it is on its second pass, so does that mean it doesn't get MERPed but finds its way into your workload?

If so, this is going to cause you a lot more work, so can you fix it that resubmissions based on an over-the-limit refusal are MERPable?

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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  13:46:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

If so, this is going to cause you a lot more work, so can you fix it that resubmissions based on an over-the-limit refusal are MERPable?

I have already requested this.
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Tori 
"I don't get it...."

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  18:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought that resubs were reconfigured to go back to MERPs awhile ago to cut down on Benj's work...?
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/13/2007 :  09:30:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Tori

I thought that resubs were reconfigured to go back to MERPs awhile ago to cut down on Benj's work...?

I wondered whether this was the case, but I hadn't read it. (I could easily have missed it.) This would be a shame, as I'd rather wait however long would be necessary for Benj look at them, but if that's how it needs to be then fair enough.
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benj clews 
"...."

Posted - 03/13/2007 :  10:23:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Benj

I notice that if a review is refused for being over the limit - I only had a couple officer! - when it is resubmitted it is on its second pass, so does that mean it doesn't get MERPed but finds its way into your workload?

If so, this is going to cause you a lot more work, so can you fix it that resubmissions based on an over-the-limit refusal are MERPable?



Nope- resubbed reviews also go through MERPs.

Trust me, you seriously would not want to wait as long as it'd take for me get around to looking at everyone's second pass reviews
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 03/13/2007 :  10:44:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by benj clews

quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Benj

I notice that if a review is refused for being over the limit - I only had a couple officer! - when it is resubmitted it is on its second pass, so does that mean it doesn't get MERPed but finds its way into your workload?

If so, this is going to cause you a lot more work, so can you fix it that resubmissions based on an over-the-limit refusal are MERPable?



Nope- resubbed reviews also go through MERPs.

Trust me, you seriously would not want to wait as long as it'd take for me get around to looking at everyone's second pass reviews



Oh, I know! I've got a few that have been languishing for five months ... and one in particular would give me an accolade. Sigh!
Ah, well ... patience is a beautiful thing.

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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 03/13/2007 :  11:03:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by benj clews

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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Benj

I notice that if a review is refused for being over the limit - I only had a couple officer! - when it is resubmitted it is on its second pass, so does that mean it doesn't get MERPed but finds its way into your workload?

If so, this is going to cause you a lot more work, so can you fix it that resubmissions based on an over-the-limit refusal are MERPable?



Nope- resubbed reviews also go through MERPs.

Trust me, you seriously would not want to wait as long as it'd take for me get around to looking at everyone's second pass reviews



So what the hell do you do around here?

()

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Mr Savoir Faire 
"^ Click my name. "

Posted - 03/13/2007 :  21:06:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now that movies are added instantly and the review is not added with them, does this mean that new movie reviews are now part of the "20 per week" quota?
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benj clews 
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Posted - 03/13/2007 :  21:25:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Mr Stupid

Now that movies are added instantly and the review is not added with them, does this mean that new movie reviews are now part of the "20 per week" quota?



Yup. As it should be, I reckon.
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"

Posted - 03/14/2007 :  00:40:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

quote:
Originally posted by benj clews

quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Benj

I notice that if a review is refused for being over the limit - I only had a couple officer! - when it is resubmitted it is on its second pass, so does that mean it doesn't get MERPed but finds its way into your workload?

If so, this is going to cause you a lot more work, so can you fix it that resubmissions based on an over-the-limit refusal are MERPable?



Nope- resubbed reviews also go through MERPs.

Trust me, you seriously would not want to wait as long as it'd take for me get around to looking at everyone's second pass reviews



So what the hell do you do around here?

()





Well, duh...spokesman!
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TitanPa 
"Here four more"

Posted - 03/16/2007 :  19:31:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I myself don't have a provblem wit this. Been away fore a bit with the new house. "Havent had time to submit. ZThe most reviews I have ever had was 100. I even tried to keep my top 25 spot on the board. But i gave up and have slid down in ranks. No prob for me. I have started reviewing again..after weeks of just being on the message boards. I applaud you benj for taking the necessary means to keep this site in check. Keep up the good work. Now I just hope you dont keep adding new movies to a min of 20........Its my new past time...hehe

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Sludge 
"Charlie Don't Serf!"

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  22:32:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a complaint here, and I know you've thought a lot longer than me about the options... nevertheless, a suggestion:

What if the cap were imposed on our pending pile?

I have about 160 pending. With a cap of 100 from pending, the slower and/or newer users will be at a proportional advantage (which is fair and will encourage them to stick with it here) because they haven't hit the limit yet. Many users will never hit this number. Someone who's new and very inspired won't have the despondency of hitting that wall.

With the possible exception of the 600 Mystery Guest, those of us who are already at that number in pending should have less of a problem with it. It gives wider play room for people submitting a lot - with 100 pending, surely some of those looked at in hindsight will be junk, and it will encourage us to self-MERP.

With 20 to choose from in a week, it's harder to make that kind of choice.

I started "skimming" by about page 5 of this, so this may have been answered already... Does the new limit mean I can come up with a review that will be rejected, and someone else with the identical review will be accepted even though it was earlier placed in my rejection pile?

Sludge
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benj clews 
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Posted - 03/29/2007 :  22:46:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Sludge

What if the cap were imposed on our pending pile?



Hmm... not so sure about this. It's dependant on the MERPs getting through your reviews each week for you to be able to submit more and may leave some people feeling cheated when others are having reviews approved (and therefore gaining pending slots) yet their own haven't been hit yet. At least with a weekly submit limit the playing field is even- everyone gets 20 slots freed up- regardless of who the MERPs have gotten around to processing reviews for.

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Does the new limit mean I can come up with a review that will be rejected, and someone else with the identical review will be accepted even though it was earlier placed in my rejection pile?



Um... hasn't this always been the case (irrespective of cap) or am I missing something?
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Sludge 
"Charlie Don't Serf!"

Posted - 03/29/2007 :  22:58:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by benj clews

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Originally posted by Sludge

What if the cap were imposed on our pending pile?



Hmm... not so sure about this. It's dependant on the MERPs getting through your reviews each week for you to be able to submit more and may leave some people feeling cheated when others are having reviews approved (and therefore gaining pending slots) yet their own haven't been hit yet. At least with a weekly submit limit the playing field is even- everyone gets 20 slots freed up- regardless of who the MERPs have gotten around to processing reviews for.

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Benj I had thought of this, but basically I trust the MERPS and understood that they go by the film and not by the person. I guess I trust the process... some days my pending pile will shrink and others wont, and some days mine will just sit there. I'm okay with that, I don't think of it as being deliberate as to the user.

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quote:

Does the new limit mean I can come up with a review that will be rejected, and someone else with the identical review will be accepted even though it was earlier placed in my rejection pile?



Um... hasn't this always been the case (irrespective of cap) or am I missing something?



I wasn't sure! Thanks.

Edited by - Sludge on 03/29/2007 22:59:24
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