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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 03/20/2007 :  23:35:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Koli

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Originally posted by Se�n


So, overall I'd call this a "soft-core-porn-slasher-flick", and give it 5/10, it wasn't really worth the bother watching. The second half was, but I was thinking "F**k this is shite!" for the first 30-40 minutes. So IMDb's 5.8 was correct again.



So does this mean I'll never be able to get your arm to breaking point ever again? Is my credibility completely blown?

I'm now feeling moderately guilty for persuading Sean to watch it. I've made a note not to watch Syriana; if it features torture scenes more grueling than the ones in Hostel it clearly isn't for me.

Have you looked at the 'extras' on the DVD about how it was made etc? I found it made me like the whole enterprise more than before.



Sean, isn't also a positive thing that you can discuss the film in such detail with us all? Although your 'experiment' proved that you and IMDB are in some kind of freaky mind synch, we would have missed out on your 'dissection' and analysis of the film I'd also recommend the extras, by the way.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 03/21/2007 :  01:36:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Koli

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Originally posted by Se�n

So, overall I'd call this a "soft-core-porn-slasher-flick", and give it 5/10, it wasn't really worth the bother watching. The second half was, but I was thinking "F**k this is shite!" for the first 30-40 minutes. So IMDb's 5.8 was correct again.
I'm now feeling moderately guilty for persuading Sean to watch it.
Hey, it wasn't that bad! The only reason I gave it a marginal 'fail' was the first 30 minutes. The rest was a perfectly acceptable watching experience. One point here that didn't help my enjoyment of it:- I've netflixed all the IMDb Top 250 movies that I hadn't seen, and I'd guess I've been watching 2-3 of these per week for the last few months. The contrast between the first 30 minutes of Hostel and everything else I've been watching lately (in terms of script and acting) couldn't be more extreme.
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I've made a note not to watch Syriana; if it features torture scenes more grueling than the ones in Hostel it clearly isn't for me.
Hmmm, it isn't gory. The torture in Hostel is very graphic, but it's just mindless gore with poor acting. Syriana couldn't be more different, but you don't actually see it, the camera cuts away a second before it happens, so it's more psychological horror. But the victim's acting makes it seem much more real (to me) than the torture in Hostel. Others might react quite the other way around. BTW, the torture scene in Syriana is pretty short, you could look away and think of cute fluffy animals for a few seconds when you see it coming.
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Have you looked at the 'extras' on the DVD about how it was made etc? I found it made me like the whole enterprise more than before.
Nope, but I will before I send it back. Thanks for the tip.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 03/21/2007 :  01:38:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Although your 'experiment' proved that you and IMDB are in some kind of freaky mind synch...
I think it's more that I've worked out how to use IMDb scores to my benefit.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 03/21/2007 :  02:17:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I would point out that the two party girls weren't killers, they just worked for killers. All they had to do was take their clothes off, get some drooling morons' guard down, dance with them and maybe make sexytimes, and then wait for them to be abducted; people have done much more difficult and far worse things for a buck.
Yep. But one of those chicks was in the torture dungeon, she was laughing, and was completely detached from the torture, death and gore. And happy with the money she made. She'd have to be a psychopath to be that detached.
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As far as I'm concerned, the IMDb only measures how well a movie works on the surface.
Yep, there's no doubt that movies with subtlety that is missed by many end up with lower scores than might be 'fair'. But I've yet to see a movie that scored 4-5 that is worth seeing due to extra layers that the masses missed. I'm guessing there will be some though.
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Here's movies that I feel are much too underestimated by the viewers at large:

FINAL DESTINATION 3
IMDb rating: 6.0

THE PUNISHER
IMDb rating: 6.2

On my system, both of these get pass marks from those scores and should be worth watching (I've seen neither...yet). Punisher has the same score as Chronicles of Riddick which I found entertaining enough, and certainly worth watching.
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POOTIE TANG
IMDb rating: 4.2

To think people liked Wedding Crashers over this.
I've seen neither. Not sure I'd like them terribly, romantic dramas/comedies aren't normally my thing, i.e., I don't prioritise them over other genres. Might be an interesting experiment to compare them.
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JACKASS: THE MOVIE and JACKASS NUMBER TWO
IMDb rating: 6.2 and 7.1
Seen neither. Both get a passing score, and 7.1 is actually a pretty damn good score at IMDb. A movie only needs 7.8 to get into the IMDb Top 250.
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ANOTHER 48 HRS.
IMDb rating: 5.1
Haven't seen, but thought the first one was OK but not great. I'm guessing I'd probably think that this wasn't as good as the first if I saw it.
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THE BREAK-UP
IMDb rating: 5.8
It's the good old US-romantic-comedy-drama again. Not a big fan of that kind of mix. I tend to get bored. I'd guess it's the kind of movie I'd be able to tolerate but would forget about completely once I've ejected the DVD. Some love rom-com-dramas; I'm the sort that only likes them if they're extremely good (quite what seperates good ones from bad ones I'm not too sure). Two of my favourite movies ever are romantic dramas (although I wouldn't call them comedies); Lost in Translation and Fucking �m�l.

Thanks for the tips anyway, I've bookmarked some for future perusal. Once I've finished watching the IMDb Top 250 (later this year) I may test some of them.
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"

Posted - 08/16/2007 :  16:58:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finally saw this movie for the first time last night on cable and I'm having a very hard time finding the right words to express just how much I hated it.

This movie isn't scary. Worse, it's very predictable so this movie isn't even "thrilling." This movie is just gross and unpleasant, with no reason, point, or message of any kind (other than: "Americans are jerks and that's why everybody hates us"). At least Saw - which really popularized this "torture porn" genre - has some wit and intelligence...there's a reason the villain does what he does, whatever that might be.

I'm not turned off by gore, blood, or even pain and suffering. I think Johnny Depp's death scene in Nightmare on Elm St is one of the all-time greats, and I love seeing Robert Shaw disappear into the mouth of that great white. I can watch The Silence of the Lambs without even flinching and I praise Spielberg for really showing us the brutality and horror of war on the big screen for the first time ever. Even if we just stick to movies, I'm into some pretty wild stuff that I wouldn't want to even go into detail about here (I don't mean "adult" entertainment, check out Japan's Blind Beast for an idea of what I'm talking about). I can handle almost anything if there's some point or if it's at least done with wit and intelligence...but I think there's something really demented about a movie that's nothing but a couple hours of people being tortured for no reason whatsoever.

If this is what moviegoers pay $10 to see, it makes me wonder if maybe there really ARE outfits like "Elite Hunting" that cater to rich sadists.
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