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Originally posted by BaftaBabe

But my point is that there's a BIG diff between nudity -- Goya, Renoir, ancient Greek sculpture, Michelangelo, et al -- and pornography. I'm not saying I think PKMN's avatar is artistic, or even tasteful ... but it's a lady floating in some water. Why would that be pornographic Am I missing something

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But my point is that there's a BIG diff between nudity -- Goya, Renoir, ancient Greek sculpture, Michelangelo, et al -- and pornography. I'm not saying I think PKMN's avatar is artistic, or even tasteful ... but it's a lady floating in some water. Why would that be pornographic Am I missing something

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It's pornographic, because as you have said, it is not artistic or tasteful.

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But my point is that there's a BIG diff between nudity -- Goya, Renoir, ancient Greek sculpture, Michelangelo, et al -- and pornography. I'm not saying I think PKMN's avatar is artistic, or even tasteful ... but it's a lady floating in some water. Why would that be pornographic Am I missing something

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It's pornographic, because as you have said, it is not artistic or tasteful.

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1. I never said it is NOT artistic or tasteful merely that I wasn't saying that it was those things, which, after all, are matters of personal preference. More importantly, they are not constituents of pornography.

2.Online Etymology Dictionary - Cite This Source
pornography 1857, "description of prostitutes," from Fr. pornographie, from Gk. pornographos "(one) writing of prostitutes," from porne "prostitute," originally "bought, purchased" (with an original notion, probably of "female slave sold for prostitution;" related to pernanai "to sell," from PIE root per- "to traffic in, to sell," cf. L. pretium "price") + graphein "to write." Originally used of classical art and writing; application to modern examples began 1880s. Main modern meaning "salacious writing or pictures" represents a slight shift from the etymology, though classical depictions of prostitution usually had this quality. Pornographer is earliest form of the word, attested from 1850. Pornocracy (1860) is "the dominating influence of harlots," used specifically of the government of Rome during the first half of the 10th century by Theodora and her daughters.

salacious 1661, from L. salax (gen. salacis) "lustful," probably originally "fond of leaping," as in a male animal leaping on a female in sexual advances, from salire "to leap" (see salient). Earliest form of the word in Eng. is salacity (1605).

Honestly, Mr S ... I think you're adorable and I really enjoy some of your contributions , but I'm really not sure what you gain by the implication that something is so because you say it is. History ain't on your side in that regard

I don't want to get too heavy here, but you raise important issues about language [and in this case, image] fascism.

imho, there are plenty of things on this site that might offend tender sensibilities -- not mine, you understand -- [e.g. several fairly recent avatars which actually did depict acts requisite to procreation ] but honestly - PKMN's avatar shows a naked lady floating in water. That's it. OK - I probably wouldn't use it. Maybe you wouldn't use it. But if you're going to use a public-access computer to visit a site populated by mature, responsible adults who don't believe in censorship -- are you really saying that we should curtail our postings on the off-chance that someone might be looking over your shoulder?

I hope not. And, more than anything, I hope we can be fwfr-friends who just happen to disagree about some stuff. Here's my cyber-paw -- will you shake on it?
[NOT LIKE THAT, YOU PERVERT!]

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Originally posted by rabid kazook
Speaking of the moon, I actually mooned people not too long ago when my reviews weren't getting accepted...
Anyhow, you're not alone Shiv... we share the same "space of belonging" well... sans the zen... if that's any condolence to you.
But alas I don't think that some reviewers have a privilage or so, it's just that movies with a load of pending reviews get faster on a accepting repertoar, and some movie piles must go a whole equatorial circle.

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IMO for that to be porn she'd have to be 'tweaking her toggle' or... something would have to be up something... or something.

Having said that, if PKMN's avatar was a naked man I'd be the first clambering for it's removal.

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I consider women who pose nude to be prostitutes, because they are selling private areas of their bodies for money. I also believe that David is sacrilegious because it is obviously the pagan god Apollo, and unlike the greeks who de-emphasized privates by making them smaller, david's penis is the focal point of the statue.

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I consider women who pose nude to be prostitutes, because they are selling private areas of their bodies for money.

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I consider women who pose nude to be prostitutes, because they are selling private areas of their bodies for money. I also believe that David is sacrilegious because it is obviously the pagan god Apollo, and unlike the greeks who de-emphasized privates by making them smaller, david's penis is the focal point of the statue.

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That's a very interesting point of view.

What do you feel about homosexuality?

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I consider women who pose nude to be prostitutes, because they are selling private areas of their bodies for money. I also believe that David is sacrilegious because it is obviously the pagan god Apollo, and unlike the greeks who de-emphasized privates by making them smaller, david's penis is the focal point of the statue.

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That's a very interesting point of view.

What do you feel about homosexuality?

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It is the sin of adultery.

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I hate to contribute to this forum, but since i'ts already on the top while I'm posting this...
PKMN, please change your avatar. I can't tell if there's actually nudity or not, but sometimes I access fwfr from my school's computers, and it just seems creepy to see someone looking at pornography in the library.

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I hate to contribute to this forum, but since i'ts already on the top while I'm posting this...
PKMN, please change your avatar. I can't tell if there's actually nudity or not, but sometimes I access fwfr from my school's computers, and it just seems creepy to see someone looking at pornography in the library.

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I'm presuming it's a still from "Walkabout"

If you think that's offensive check out PKMN's accolade Here
Complete with revolting adolescent masturbatory fantasy.

Given that this is PKMNs thread, I suppose I should write in size 20 font in day-glow green in an attempt to show how important I am. But I'm not that needy.

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It is the sin of adultery.

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I consider women who pose nude to be prostitutes, because they are selling private areas of their bodies for money. I also believe that David is sacrilegious because it is obviously the pagan god Apollo, and unlike the greeks who de-emphasized privates by making them smaller, david's penis is the focal point of the statue.

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That's a very interesting point of view.

What do you feel about homosexuality?

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