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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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 Posted - 06/25/2007 : 18:26:19
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Originally posted by Stalean
Here is a question for knowledgeable fwiffers, can critics change their reviews/ratings for a film after having given it their original rating?
I don't think there are hard and fast rules, and editorial policies often change when there are personnel changes. However, I do know that Roger Ebert has been known to re-evaluate films, and has even been known to admit he was wrong first time around.
Many films now considered classics were trashed on first release, including most of Hitchcock's output.
Hope this helps 
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Tori 
"I don't get it...."
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Posted - 06/25/2007 : 19:24:59
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I really liked 'THe Majestic' with Jim Carrey
So do I but I can see why others didn't. |
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 06/26/2007 : 01:46:13
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 06/27/2007 : 01:05:12
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
That really hits the nail, Joe. I think the only Coen brothers film that "made it" was Fargo, and while I think it is a great film, I can't say it is my favourite Coen brothers film.
Yes, it's funny how Fargo seemed to reach a broader audience, even though it is no more 'mainstream' (if I can use that word) than their other films. I do love it though.
I liked every Coen Brothers film on first viewing, right back to Blood Simple. I have several in my collection, and can watch them again and again. But not many of my friends are that keen. Perhaps if you don't get into the characters and the off-beat plot directions - and the dialogue as Joe B mentioned - then after first viewing and seeing how the film 'ends' repeated viewings are not satisfactory for some.
In regard to films pre-video and how they were accepted - I suppose that the films had a one-off chance of capturing the imagination - i.e. in the cinema. A few films, like Citizen Kane, did gain new public popularity prior to vhs though. Of course, the politics surrounding that film hampered its release at first.
Another 'flop' was the Blues Brothers, which is now one of the biggest cult films of all time. Why o why did they want to make a second film - it was doomed from the start, imho. |
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 06/27/2007 : 11:32:40
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Originally posted by Randall
If you're talking about offline, one of the most egregious examples was Time magazine over 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY in 1968-69. Originally hated it, warned readers away, the worst possible review. Then, their "film capsule" column gradually began to warm to the picture until less than a year later it was calling 2001 a masterpiece.
I've noticed that happening to almost all of Stanley Kubrick's films.
Psycho had a similar history. As it was first released, critics couldnt look past the gore, the bra, and the Oedipus complex stuff.
Anyway, Psycho was panned by critics because it was grotesque and exploitative even though Hitchcock himself would probably agree with these adjectives. They aren't criticisms, but objective descriptions of the film. Audiences, on the other hand, generally liked Psycho and within a month or so, critics started reappraising it.
Not only liked it -- it was an immediate smash hit! [Which could account for some of the critical backlash: critics like to be ahead of the audience and tend to resent it when it's the other way around.]
PSYCHO was the first release where the distributor stipulated that no one was to be admitted after the picture began. [In those days, you just wandered in whenever you liked, then stayed until you reached that point in the flick again: "This is where I came in."] A spot of bravado, yes, but the real reason is that a key character does not survive PSYCHO's halfway point, and Hitchcock felt late-arriving audience members would be confused. Ever the showman, he turned shit into Shinola -- and exhibitors balked at first, but relented when would-be latecomers were greeted with lines stretching around the block, waiting for the next performance. It turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. |
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