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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/03/2007 :  16:12:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

I hope this move won't offend anyone.

Actually, I am offended. Bife and I had responded to you with different viewpoints - what more was there to say? It is horrible to have a proliferation of threads about overly specific cases, especially with touchy subjects such as rejections. My example was equivalent to your example and they should both be in the same thread, if mentioned at all. I am also offended by the new title of the thread, as both the inclusion of my name and the "some questions" misrepresent the nature of my post.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 07/03/2007 16:17:34
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/03/2007 :  16:15:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

I'd say the basis for rejection is simply that the editor or editors believe that Mrs Thatcher cannot accurely be described as a chick, because they feel a chick should have certain qualities over and above merely being female - e.g. young, attractive, girlie, which Maggie certainly did not possess - whilst you feel it can be used without any such qualities.

I simply feel that the MERPs cannot overrule usage which is ubiquitous on this very site, and that it is not their remit to judge attractiveness.
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 07/03/2007 :  16:33:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

I hope this move won't offend anyone.

Actually, I am offended. Bife and I had responded to you with different viewpoints - what more was there to say? It is horrible to have a proliferation of threads about overly specific cases, especially with touchy subjects such as rejections. My example was equivalent to your example and they should both be in the same thread, if mentioned at all. I am also offended by the new title of the thread, as both the inclusion of my name and the "some questions" misrepresent the nature of my post.



Oh, dear ... I never meant to offend anyone. Please tell me what to call the thread on your behalf and I'll change it.

I did thank you and bife for your posts, but I'm still hoping for the comments of others. Honestly, I don't see what's so wrong with that.



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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 07/03/2007 :  23:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Shiv

Inaccurate is probably the wrong way to reject the review - but what were you trying to say in the review? In some ways it's just a statement about Thatcher.

It's wordplay: Thatcher = T, hatcher = Tory leader, chick. That is irrelevant for the MERPs' purposes, though.



Very subtle - sorry, I didn't pick that up
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/04/2007 :  14:59:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

Oh, dear ... I never meant to offend anyone. Please tell me what to call the thread on your behalf and I'll change it.

Please just call it 'Rejected reviews' or something very plain like that.
quote:
I did thank you and bife for your posts, but I'm still hoping for the comments of others. Honestly, I don't see what's so wrong with that.

I honestly didn't think that anyone who wouldn't respond to your query here would respond in a different thread - I've obviously got too much faith in people's ability to read the beginning of a thread!
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/04/2007 :  15:03:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shiv

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Shiv

Inaccurate is probably the wrong way to reject the review - but what were you trying to say in the review? In some ways it's just a statement about Thatcher.

It's wordplay: Thatcher = T, hatcher = Tory leader, chick. That is irrelevant for the MERPs' purposes, though.



Very subtle - sorry, I didn't pick that up


No problem. I wouldn't mind people not getting it and not voting for it - I just minded the MERPs not passing it. Anyway, they have now - thanks (other?) MERPs.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 07/04/2007 15:03:37
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 07/05/2007 :  17:18:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

I'd say the basis for rejection is simply that the editor or editors believe that Mrs Thatcher cannot accurely be described as a chick, because they feel a chick should have certain qualities over and above merely being female - e.g. young, attractive, girlie, which Maggie certainly did not possess - whilst you feel it can be used without any such qualities.

I simply feel that the MERPs cannot overrule usage which is ubiquitous on this very site, and that it is not their remit to judge attractiveness.




Simply as a point of information dictionary.com does not support your wide definition of chick.

As Benj frequently uses that as a reliable source it possible that decided the issue for him.

Whilst sexual attractiveness is a subjective matter, finding Mrs Thatcher attractive seems to me to be bordering on a perversion, and I would advise anyone suffering from this condition to SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY.



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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/05/2007 :  17:26:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Simply as a point of information dictionary.com does not support your wide definition of chick.

As Benj frequently uses that as a reliable source it possible that decided the issue for him.

That makes no sense at all, since he uses the term on every film page, as we have said.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 07/06/2007 :  04:23:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Simply as a point of information dictionary.com does not support your wide definition of chick.
I think it comes down to variable usage of a colloquialism. I've been using "chick" = "woman" as far back as I can remember. Some examples from my personal vocabulary:-

Old females = "Those ladies" (formal as they'd prefer/expect)
Females from young to middle age = "Those chicks" (neutral to complimentary from me)
Females from young to elderly if I didn't like them = "Those bitches"
Attractive females = "Those babes"

I'd never say "Those women", it sounds too formal and stuffy.

That's just my usage anyway. Obviously it varies from person to person. Some would have no problem saying "Those women" but I doubt I've ever said it in my life. Likewise "bitch" is a compliment in some circles, in the way that "nasty" can mean "nice" to some people, although I suppose these two examples are somewhat uncommon.

Anyway, I checked Urban Dictionary, and out of 18 entries at least 5-6 equated "chick" with "female", so I'm not the only one. Benj has done the same on movie pages next to the movie score.
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Whilst sexual attractiveness is a subjective matter, finding Mrs Thatcher attractive seems to me to be bordering on a perversion, and I would advise anyone suffering from this condition to SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY.
I couldn't agree more. I think I'd even find thefoxboy more attractive than her! ....
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 07/06/2007 :  13:28:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Simply as a point of information dictionary.com does not support your wide definition of chick.

As Benj frequently uses that as a reliable source it possible that decided the issue for him.

That makes no sense at all, since he uses the term on every film page, as we have said.



Yeah, and we've also already said that its in relation to film watching, not necessarily in a general context. You more or less accepted this point several days ago. Look back in the thread.



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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 07/06/2007 :  13:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Simply as a point of information dictionary.com does not support your wide definition of chick.


I think it comes down to variable usage of a colloquialism. I've been using "chick" = "woman" as far back as I can remember...

Sure, but I just think if a MERP has relied on dictionary.com he does not deserve to be told his decision is "wrong".

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Whilst sexual attractiveness is a subjective matter, finding Mrs Thatcher attractive seems to me to be bordering on a perversion, and I would advise anyone suffering from this condition to SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY.
I couldn't agree more. I think I'd even find thefoxboy more attractive than her! ....



Steady on there!

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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 07/06/2007 :  14:20:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

On the subject of Chick

Slang an attractive woman (the expression may be seen as derogatory)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder no matter how worrying it is.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/06/2007 :  14:43:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

Yeah, and we've also already said that its in relation to film watching, not necessarily in a general context. You more or less accepted this point several days ago. Look back in the thread.

I said that it was a fairly fair point, meaning that I accepted that it was theoretically possible that Benj was making a distinction. However, it was clear from my posts that I thought this highly unlikely, and I very much doubt that anyone else thinks differently.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 07/10/2007 :  17:48:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After a long life on the site, my review "Fear Greeks bearing gifts" was recently rejected. Now, I don't think this is a good review, since it is just a quotation (albeit one which is sufficiently encompassing to represent the film), but I do object to its being rejected as 'Too generic'. Under current conditions, I think this couldn't really be considered too 'generic' even if it weren't a quotation. However, since it is (and one which refers specifically to the Wooden Horse episode of the Siege of Troy), it definitely cannot be considered so - there are not so many Troy films.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 07/10/2007 18:10:53
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"

Posted - 07/10/2007 :  18:46:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

After a long life on the site, my review "Fear Greeks bearing gifts" was recently rejected. Now, I don't think this is a good review, since it is just a quotation (albeit one which is sufficiently encompassing to represent the film), but I do object to its being rejected as 'Too generic'. Under current conditions, I think this couldn't really be considered too 'generic' even if it weren't a quotation. However, since it is (and one which refers specifically to the Wooden Horse episode of the Siege of Troy), it definitely cannot be considered so - there are not so many Troy films.



I thought it was Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts.
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