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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 04/18/2008 :  11:47:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



Yes CL, that's the word for it, it's thrilling.


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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/21/2008 :  18:47:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper

No, you're not telling it as it is, you're telling it as you see it

That isn't a different thing, as the how it is in question is about how I see it, because (apart from the fact that everything that one writes is how one sees it) I specifically used "seem" etc., as we've already covered.
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We've finallly found a good reason why MERPs should know the name of the reviewer.

I'm glad that we agree that there is no sensible reason for that.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/21/2008 :  18:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Josh_the_cat

6. an advantage or source of pleasure granted to a person: It's my privilege to be here.

In all seriousness, I feel that it is this. It's enjoyable and interesting to be involved behind the scenes in any decision-making process. And insisting on calling it a burden when it is wholly voluntary just makes no sense, unless there were a shortage of volunteers and they felt the pressure of duty (which is not relevant in this case since there was not an open invitation).
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/21/2008 :  18:53:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by benj clews

When I originally wrote the site I never for one second imagined anyone would have so much dedication to helping reviewers that they would be actually willing to write feedback on individually declined reviews.

I can't imagine how anyone wouldn't be willing to do that, if they want to process decisions at all.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/21/2008 :  19:01:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On the upside, the last few such cases I've had have been better. The one I considered the most valid rejection said that the review was a little too obscure. As I've said several times, this ought to be available as a general reason as I'm sure it applies to many blank decisions.

Can we assume that one's responses to these comments always go back to the same MERPs? It's just that the need to respond to them (when it exists), precludes the retention of other information that one had previously added. Similarly, without individual MERP comments, do reviews go back to the same person? I had always assumed not, but it would be odd if the comments caused reviews to be funnelled off in a specialised way. The same problem with space often occurs - e.g. it is hard to respond to an invalid 'Too generic' and leave intact useful info that one had submitted in the first place.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 04/21/2008 19:02:29
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benj clews 
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Posted - 04/21/2008 :  22:11:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by benj clews

When I originally wrote the site I never for one second imagined anyone would have so much dedication to helping reviewers that they would be actually willing to write feedback on individually declined reviews.

I can't imagine how anyone wouldn't be willing to do that, if they want to process decisions at all.



Clearly you have more free time than most of us.
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Canklefish 
"Let's Get OUTTA Here!"

Posted - 04/23/2008 :  07:02:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I've stated before... Please, God... stop speaking to me directly! My reviews can be denied without so much hoopla. I appreciate the effort, but let my sleeping dogs lie... I much prefer the declined reviews section of my queue, where a blank space was provided, whereupon I was left to wonder... 'Was my review for that flick so awful, that words from the Merps could not begin to describe the atrocities I breached?'

I dig that scenario...

Although, having sad that... I guess perhaps, it's nice to hear what God has to say every now and again... Perhaps the jury(in my head) is still out...

Edited by - Canklefish on 04/23/2008 07:36:37
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  03:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by benj clews

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

I can't imagine how anyone wouldn't be willing to do that, if they want to process decisions at all.

Clearly you have more free time than most of us.

As I am unemployed, that is probably true. However, if someone has insufficient time, it means they shouldn't do it, not that they should do it badly. Rejections by you are rather different in that they are by definition in theory consistent with the parameters you have set. In the case of the MERPs, if they give a rejection reason, I can always find equivalent approved reviews if I choose to.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 05/04/2008 03:20:24
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  03:21:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by CankleFetish

As I've stated before... Please, God... stop speaking to me directly! My reviews can be denied without so much hoopla. I appreciate the effort, but let my sleeping dogs lie... I much prefer the declined reviews section of my queue, where a blank space was provided, whereupon I was left to wonder... 'Was my review for that flick so awful, that words from the Merps could not begin to describe the atrocities I breached?'

You could... not click on the link!

However, in the cases where the MERPs ask questions, I expect they might actually want to know the answer and would be frustrated to never find out what you were getting at.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  03:23:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian

Can we assume that one's responses to these comments always go back to the same MERPs? It's just that the need to respond to them (when it exists), precludes the retention of other information that one had previously added. Similarly, without individual MERP comments, do reviews go back to the same person? I had always assumed not, but it would be odd if the comments caused reviews to be funnelled off in a specialised way. The same problem with space often occurs - e.g. it is hard to respond to an invalid 'Too generic' and leave intact useful info that one had submitted in the first place.

This really needs an answer if we are to know how to respond to these comments and to resubmit in general.
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The General 
"Forty? What? Me? How?."

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  15:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I personally like the detailed explanation. On my last reject they explained a pending review was identical and submitted previous to mine. Without that explanation I would have seen no reason for rejection and would have resubmitted.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  19:06:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by The Prof

On my last reject they explained a pending review was identical and submitted previous to mine. Without that explanation I would have seen no reason for rejection and would have resubmitted.

Surely in that case a standard 'Similar to another review' (or whatever the wording is) would have been fine, though?
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/26/2008 :  15:22:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have just been given as a reason that my wording was "inelegant"! Surely the MERPs understand that they are supposed to be assessing whether reviews are valid, not their finesse?
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 05/26/2008 :  16:34:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really appreciated the MERP detail for my last decline, it pointed out the small variation that would get it approved. I have duly taken that advice and resubmitted. I think if MERPs are prepared to offer advice we should be glad to take it - it doesn't have to be followed, but is a welcome insight into the MERPing mind.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/26/2008 :  16:50:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't mind valid advice, and even the above I only posted for comedy value, but in principle they shouldn't be judging reviews on style -- that is a matter for voting, not approval/rejection.
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