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bife 
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "
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 Posted - 05/24/2008 : 07:03:45
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... I'd find myself promoting an I see dead people/Icy dead people pun, but:
Soda's Eye see dead people is a top review.
The film in question, Eye, is a 'supernatural thriller' about a blind woman who receives an eye transplant, the eye she receives shows her supernatural images of people dying.
I think that 'Eye sees dead people' wonderfully links the two films whilst acting as a very literal description of the film. Kudos to Soda for managing to make something valuable out of such a tired and overused pun
While there, a quick honourable mention to misterbadidea's 'The fifth sense' review, which manages to say so much about the plot using only three words (I am not 100% sure that sight is the fifth sense, always thought it was the first, but that is splitting hairs)
Love both these reviews |
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thefoxboy 
"Four your eyes only."
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 09:22:43
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This is one of the reasons I'm going cold on fwfr. In my not-so-humble opinion soda's review should be immediately deleted (if he doesn't do it himself). Many fwfrers do the noble thing, but many see no problem with posting exact duplicates of reviews that have existed for years.
There's only so much you can do with four words, and IMO most of it's already been done, so duplication (deliberate or accidental or subconscious) is becoming extremely common. It's the curse of fwfr, mostly as there doesn't seem to be much anyone can do about it. 
I honestly think it's just a matter of time before someone (perhaps someone who isn't yet at fwfr) goes through the Top 500 (or any top reviews lists) and finds as many films as possible to apply them to. 
In this case, hopefully soda will do the right thing when he discovers it's a dupe.  |
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bife
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 12:12:59
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I'm with you sean, the level of duplication, both accidental and obviously 'inspired', is also the main reason i spend less than 10% of the time on the site that I used to.
Knowing soda's normal level of originality and quality, I have no suspician that this is anything other than accidental, but you are right that his review doesn't add anything given cheese ed's already existing review.
So - everybody go vote for cheese ed for the original film and for mrbadidea for the remake! |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 12:20:20
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I went to the film The Eye to submit "Eyes see dead people" and found soda's. I hadn't seen the one listed by thefoxboy and the link doesn't work at present, for me at least. My version would have been better than soda's, as it is phonetically closer to the original and despite the stupid title the ability is a feature of both eyes, in the recent film anyway. I would certainly have deleted it had I got there before him but found that the earlier one was indeed the same. (I didn't realise it was a remake or I would have checked the original too.)
Sean is right that this is a big problem now, which is why when I recognise F.W.F.R.s in the F.Y.C.T.H./MIHAI or can tell that they will have definitely been used I now post links to the earlier cases. This included "Brat out of Hell", and I pointed out that you had rightly deleted your version, Sean. Since then, two or three others have been added! Unfortunately, some people think that the fact they came up with it separately is a good enough reason to keep it. |
Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 05/24/2008 12:43:35 |
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 20:49:59
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I'd really like Benj to take up my suggestion of a warning message when a review is submitted for one film which is exactly the same as a review for another film. That way we could avoid these dupes if we chose to, which most of us would.
The message would be something along the lines of "This review already exists for [FILM NAME]. Do you still want to submit?"
Anyone who thinks this would be a good idea, please say so here so Benj can gauge the support it would have amongst reviewers.
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bife
"Winners never quit ... fwfr ... "
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 20:56:38
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Anyone who thinks this would be a good idea, please say so here so Benj can gauge the support it would have amongst reviewers.
I hadn't seen that suggestion before, I'd be supportive of it |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 20:59:00
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Me 2
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Mr Savoir Faire 
"^ Click my name. "
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 21:02:27
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Originally posted by Salopian
I went to the film The Eye to submit "Eyes see dead people" and found soda's. I hadn't seen the one listed by thefoxboy and the link doesn't work at present, for me at least. My version would have been better than soda's, as it is phonetically closer to the original and despite the stupid title the ability is a feature of both eyes, in the recent film anyway. I would certainly have deleted it had I got there before him but found that the earlier one was indeed the same. (I didn't realise it was a remake or I would have checked the original too.)
Sean is right that this is a big problem now, which is why when I recognise F.W.F.R.s in the F.Y.C.T.H./MIHAI or can tell that they will have definitely been used I now post links to the earlier cases. This included "Brat out of Hell", and I pointed out that you had rightly deleted your version, Sean. Since then, two or three others have been added! Unfortunately, some people think that the fact they came up with it separately is a good enough reason to keep it.
"Brat out of Hell" has always been a controversial review. Other reviews of mine that I have discovered as duplicates I have deleted. Interestingly i saw an episode of Family Guy where Stewie gets demon-possessed or something and Tom Traxler has a screen behind him that says "Brat out of Hell". |
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 21:52:16
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
I'd really like Benj to take up my suggestion of a warning message when a review is submitted for one film which is exactly the same as a review for another film. That way we could avoid these dupes if we chose to, which most of us would.
The message would be something along the lines of "This review already exists for [FILM NAME]. Do you still want to submit?"
Anyone who thinks this would be a good idea, please say so here so Benj can gauge the support it would have amongst reviewers.
If he can pull it off code-wise, that would be wonderful. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 23:39:22
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
I'd really like Benj to take up my suggestion of a warning message when a review is submitted for one film which is exactly the same as a review for another film. That way we could avoid these dupes if we chose to, which most of us would.
The message would be something along the lines of "This review already exists for [FILM NAME]. Do you still want to submit?"
I think this would be a good idea. It would encourage people to think that cross-film duplicates were not of much value, so that when virtual duplicates were manually pointed out they would be more likely to delete them. |
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Conan The Westy
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"
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Posted - 05/24/2008 : 23:47:04
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| Just don't delete the Dead Man Walken reviews as I made them into an accolade before all this turned into a major brouhaha (now that's I word I don't get to slip into conversations often enough). |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 05/25/2008 : 00:10:11
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There are certain surname puns that cause me to just ignore the review immediately - Walken, Fonda, Hathaway,...  |
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GHcool
"Forever a curious character."
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Posted - 05/25/2008 : 05:54:47
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| Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm guilty of this kind of thing, but if I am, it wasn't on purpose. I don't really like voting for those kinds of reviews and I would support a measure that might help cut future submissions of this sort. |
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Yukon
"Co-editor of FWFR book"
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Posted - 05/25/2008 : 12:12:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper
I'd really like Benj to take up my suggestion of a warning message when a review is submitted for one film which is exactly the same as a review for another film. That way we could avoid these dupes if we chose to, which most of us would.
The message would be something along the lines of "This review already exists for [FILM NAME]. Do you still want to submit?"
Anyone who thinks this would be a good idea, please say so here so Benj can gauge the support it would have amongst reviewers.
Please God No! I disagreee with everyone here.
The one thing I hated when I first joined this site was when I'd get a message in the FYC saying "Hey! I have a similiar review! Delete yours."
I've said this many times before: With over 200,000 reviews, there is almost no original reviews to be written!!
You could eliminate 90% of the reviews on this site under a rule that says you can't duplicate a review that's similiar from ANOTHER movie.
I don't understand how people say duplicate reviews don't add anything to the site. Anything that is funny or clever adds to the site. Period.
If somebody says they submitted a review with seeing my original, that's good enough for me.
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