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Improper Username 
"inappropriately amused"
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 Posted - 07/29/2010 : 20:56:49
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Originally posted by benj clews
like asking YouTube to provide a direct download link. Sure, you can argue that the content is transferred away to the client machine with each page request but it's not all at once and it's not for the intention of permanent storage (hence why you'll find the html to pages you visit held for a time in your Windows Temporary Files folder).
Which is why sites for downloading youtube videos, and utilities for that are so popular. YT may as well provide the links.
More importantly, without visitors, a site is pointless. A site like FWFR, which relies on user contributions, has no content without users. Therefore, it needs contributors and needs to keep most of them happy. However, there are not enough hours in the day to accommodate every request and every idea. I agree that this one would be of extremely low priority, even if enough people wanted it. |
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benj clews 
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 21:14:42
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Originally posted by Improper Username
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Originally posted by benj clews
like asking YouTube to provide a direct download link. Sure, you can argue that the content is transferred away to the client machine with each page request but it's not all at once and it's not for the intention of permanent storage (hence why you'll find the html to pages you visit held for a time in your Windows Temporary Files folder).
Which is why sites for downloading youtube videos, and utilities for that are so popular. YT may as well provide the links.
The point I was trying to make is that: it doesn't. No matter what you or I may think it may as well do: it simply doesn't.
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More importantly, without visitors, a site is pointless. A site like FWFR, which relies on user contributions, has no content without users. Therefore, it needs contributors and needs to keep most of them happy. However, there are not enough hours in the day to accommodate every request and every idea. I agree that this one would be of extremely low priority, even if enough people wanted it.
And like I said before, I'm still waiting for even the slightest justification for this feature.
Give me a reason and I'll consider it. Continue not to do so and I'll dismiss it as a pointless suggestion that no-one, in the 10 years this site has been going, has ever asked for because the lack of it makes them not enjoy their time here. |
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Cheese_Ed 
"The Provolone Ranger"
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Posted - 07/29/2010 : 22:07:34
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I've always downloaded my reviews and kept a file a couple of times a year.
Why?
I'm anal retentive.
I like lists.
I liked to refer to it when writing new reviews to see what I've already written for a given movie. For example, during the 100 reviews for Monsturd it may have been useful.
I can easily sort by year, votes, title and date, all at once if need be.
I can look up a review without being online. For example, this week I looked up all of my reviews printed in the FWFR Book to see how many had been edited.
I'm allergic to ecru.
I can see ALL of my reviews, even the beauties written for 'films' that have since been discriminated against.
Granted this was all more relevant when I was still actively reviewing.
I'm not saying any of these are good reasons, but they all contribute to why I have such a file... and I don't need a utility to keep on keepin' on with it. |
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[matt] 
"Cinemattic."
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 00:09:02
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Originally posted by benj clews
What is this obsession all of a sudden with folks wanting to transfer their reviews away from the site? ... The site's the securest it's ever been and I backup the database daily. Other than indicating a lack of confidence in me, how am I supposed to read this? 
I trust you, benj!  I was just curious about how Salopian was doing it - whether it was a feature I didn't know about. And since you have a backup database, I don't think it's necessary to build one in.
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 06:05:22
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| Got mine in a spreadsheet now... because I could. |
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 07:30:13
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat
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Originally posted by Salopian
What do you consider the benefit of asking that question to be?
To understand where your definition of creativity starts and ends.
(1) I don't believe for a second that you are interested in understanding anything about me. (2) I don't want you to.
I know, you know, everybody knows that nothing I say will be acceptable to you, that you will always pick away at whatever answer I give. That might seem like the pot calling the kettle black, but it really isn't: you are doing this purely to goad, with complete lack of sincerity.
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you should ask yourself why you're reluctant to respond - it could be indicative of an issue you're unwilling to confront.
It is not the nature of the question I mind; it is the nature of the questioner. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 07:34:40
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Originally posted by Improper Username
Is this how you do it, Salopian:
go to the address bar and tinker with this querystring:
Rows=1000&Start=1 increasing the rows number to be greater than the number of reviews in the account.
Yes, except that I copied and pasted it in chunks of 1,000 as it didn't seem to be able to cope with the whole lot at once. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 07:52:34
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Originally posted by benj clews
What is this obsession all of a sudden with folks wanting to transfer their reviews away from the site?
It's not sudden at all. It's just that one person (me) mentioned it and so others have joined in the conversation.
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Does rottentomatoes or IMDB offer this feature? No. So why is it required here?
People write more reviews here and so they are less practical to copy and paste one at a time. Also, most reviews there are more like Fourum posts, with people just typing out their opinions in an unplanned way. They are less likely to be attached to them than we are to our creative efforts here. You should take it as a compliment that what we have produced as a result of your idea means so much to us.
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The site's the securest it's ever been and I backup the database daily. Other than indicating a lack of confidence in me, how am I supposed to read this?
It is nothing to do with a lack of confidence in you. It is simply a case of our desire to keep our reviews outweighing our understanding of and/or confidence in servers. I'm glad that they are more secure now but them plus an Excel spreadsheet is always going to be more secure than them alone. It's worth my doing it even if the former is only 0.1% better. Also, printing off the Excel spreadsheet is practical whereas printing off my pages from the website is not. |
Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 07/30/2010 08:44:06 |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 07:59:00
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Originally posted by benj clews
I'll dismiss it as a pointless suggestion that no-one, in the 10 years this site has been going, has ever asked for because the lack of it makes them not enjoy their time here.
This sounds rather harsh towards duh to me, Benj. Someone has to be the first to suggest an idea (although, by the way, it is not the first time that someone has asked about exporting reviews). It sounds useful to me, as although I am adept enough at Excel to just manage my way (as many people are), not everyone will be. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:08:12
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Originally posted by Cheese_Ed
I can easily sort by year, votes, title and date, all at once if need be.
Very good point. I like being able to sort by film year.
I haven't copied and pasted my declined reviews yet, but plan to in order to see what ideas I have tried before.
One advantage of there being an official way to export reviews would be that it could include I.D. numbers and submission dates. I've always hated my reviews being ordered by approval date. I haven't yet gone through and manually added the I.D. numbers to my spreadsheet, but I haven't ruled it out. If I did 100 per day for a few weeks it wouldn't be too onerous. I'd prefer a system whereby it were automatic, though. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:31:07
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by benj clews
I'll dismiss it as a pointless suggestion that no-one, in the 10 years this site has been going, has ever asked for because the lack of it makes them not enjoy their time here.
This sounds rather harsh towards duh to me, Benj. Someone has to be the first to suggest an idea (although, by the way, it is not the first time that someone has asked about exporting reviews).
I didn't say it hadn't been asked for before, I said it hadn't been asked for before on the argument that someone didn't enjoy their time here without it. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:41:31
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by benj clews
What is this obsession all of a sudden with folks wanting to transfer their reviews away from the site?
It's not sudden at all. It's just that one person (me) mentioned it and so others have joined in the conversation.
I can't believe you're actually debating a segue into a point. I wasn't actually asking this question, you know?
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The site's the securest it's ever been and I backup the database daily. Other than indicating a lack of confidence in me, how am I supposed to read this?
It is nothing to do with a lack of confidence in you. It is simply case of our desire to keep our reviews outweighing our understanding of and/or confidence in servers. I'm glad that they are more secure now but them plus an Excel spreadsheet is always going to be more secure than them alone. It's worth me doing it even if the former is only 0.1% better. Also, printing off the Excel spreadsheet is practical whereas printing off my pages from the website is not.
Well it's nice of you to clarify this now, however when I brought up this lack of confidence issue originally, you just said "It's just after when the site was hacked or whatever it was. One never knows what might happen." |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:46:09
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BTW, I don't appreciate how you've contorted this thread. It began innocuously enough as about the new design and now even the title's been modified to say it's also about exporting reviews.
The place for the exporting reviews suggestion is in Site Features. Please discuss this there whilst I rename this thread back. |
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Demisemicenturian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:46:59
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Originally posted by benj clews
I didn't say it hadn't been asked for before, I said it hadn't been asked for before on the argument that someone didn't enjoy their time here without it.
 Obviously people enjoy their time here. But obviously if they say they would like something then they would prefer to have it that not, i.e. they would enjoy it more. |
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benj clews
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Posted - 07/30/2010 : 08:49:01
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by benj clews
I didn't say it hadn't been asked for before, I said it hadn't been asked for before on the argument that someone didn't enjoy their time here without it.
Obviously people enjoy their time here. But obviously if they say they would like something then they would prefer to have it that not, i.e. they would enjoy it more.
Look... I know you're saying this in jest, but you know that I also didn't say that people wouldn't enjoy the site more either, right? |
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