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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  09:19:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Benj, is there any chance that the default could be for the 'include my e-mail' box to be ticked? It's frustrating writing a reply and then realising that I've got to go back, click on the link and write it there. I very much doubt that many people who are messaging others want to keep their address secret, and those that do will be consciously aware of the fact and can thus untick the box.

ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  09:37:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, that would be good.
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Corduroy Pillow 
"All puns intended"

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  16:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No. That would be terrible.
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  16:48:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Corduroy Pillow

No. That would be terrible.



Why??
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  19:27:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Maybe we could set the default option in "MY DETAILS"? Then everyone can be happy!
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  20:11:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo

quote:
Originally posted by Corduroy Pillow

No. That would be terrible.
Why??
Because if CP accidentally forgot to tick the box that said "hide my email address" when PMing someone and they received an email from [email protected] then her cover would be blown.
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Josh the cat 
"ice wouldn't melt, you'd think ....."

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  20:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I find myself agreeing with Corduroy Pillow, I think it should be an optin system not an optout system.

My contact details are private and I only give them to those who need them, if you wanna chat to me pm me.

Sorry, but I would not want to have to remember to tick a box 1 slip and it can't be undone but if I forget to include my email I can always resend and include it.

Josh the cat
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turrell 
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "

Posted - 11/24/2006 :  22:23:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm for maintaining the status quo - privacy trumps convenience and really its not that big a deal if you forget because its easy enough as is to reply back to the person even if they don't give you their email - you can click the link to PM them right back.
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/26/2006 :  02:43:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could I please then request that no one sends me a message without their e-mail address? (i) I often send the reply without realising and then have to copy it, go to the link and paste it, which is a hassle when it is usually something pretty minor and (ii) I find it a bit insidious to think that people would explicitly want to stay anonymous in communications with someone else.
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Corduroy Pillow 
"All puns intended"

Posted - 11/26/2006 :  03:43:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not insidious. Just paranoid.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 11/28/2006 :  00:18:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

I find it a bit insidious to think that people would explicitly want to stay anonymous in communications with someone else.
I don't think it's anonymous, i.e., you know who the email came from. They've just chosen to not share their personal email. There are a couple of reasons why someone may want to do this:-

a) They like fwfr and fwfrers but want to keep a little bit of distance from people they've never met. Perhaps this is a little like meeting someone in the pub, giving them your work phone number so they can ring, but not being willing to hand out home phone number, mobile number, email address and street address.... just yet. Or having a regular visitor to your house who you haven't given a spare key.... yet. Etc. Also of note, the real names of some of the regulars who've been fwfring for years remain unknown to me, some like anonymity. I don't see this as good or bad, it's just the way things are.

b) It's safer from a spam/virus/trojan perspective. E.g, say I send you a PM with my email address included, then at some stage in the future your computer becomes infected by a virus that goes through your address book and also scans your old emails for email addresses, adds them to a file that it sends to a criminal in Belarus who then adds my email address to the global spamming / phishing / scamming network and I at best become a victim of spamming (I have received no spam for two years since I last changed email address) or perhaps receive a virus that wipes out my system, or at worst become the victim of criminal fraud.

Etc. This could be why people choose to not give out their email address to everyone they communicate with.
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 11/28/2006 :  09:50:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
People can of course stay anonymous if they like - but I don't then want them messaging me.
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Josh the cat 
"ice wouldn't melt, you'd think ....."

Posted - 11/28/2006 :  13:01:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

People can of course stay anonymous if they like - but I don't then want them messaging me.



That's your choice if it is not enough to know people thru fwfr, if you have to know their private contact details then that is your choice/problem, I'll have no problems abiding by your request.

Josh the anonymous cat.
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Montgomery 
"F**k!"

Posted - 11/28/2006 :  15:36:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

I find it a bit insidious to think that people would explicitly want to stay anonymous in communications with someone else.
I don't think it's anonymous, i.e., you know who the email came from. They've just chosen to not share their personal email. There are a couple of reasons why someone may want to do this:-

a) They like fwfr and fwfrers but want to keep a little bit of distance from people they've never met. Perhaps this is a little like meeting someone in the pub, giving them your work phone number so they can ring, but not being willing to hand out home phone number, mobile number, email address and street address.... just yet. Or having a regular visitor to your house who you haven't given a spare key.... yet. Etc. Also of note, the real names of some of the regulars who've been fwfring for years remain unknown to me, some like anonymity. I don't see this as good or bad, it's just the way things are.

b) It's safer from a spam/virus/trojan perspective. E.g, say I send you a PM with my email address included, then at some stage in the future your computer becomes infected by a virus that goes through your address book and also scans your old emails for email addresses, adds them to a file that it sends to a criminal in Belarus who then adds my email address to the global spamming / phishing / scamming network and I at best become a victim of spamming (I have received no spam for two years since I last changed email address) or perhaps receive a virus that wipes out my system, or at worst become the victim of criminal fraud.

Etc. This could be why people choose to not give out their email address to everyone they communicate with.



Have you been stalked before, Sean?

Just wondering.

EM :)
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Montgomery 
"F**k!"

Posted - 11/28/2006 :  15:37:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

People can of course stay anonymous if they like - but I don't then want them messaging me.



You can know who I am, Salop. I think people who have the nerve to say something should also have the nerve to stand behind what they say.

EM :)
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benj clews 
"...."

Posted - 11/28/2006 :  16:29:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't see any of the anti-hiding-email-address folks here posting their email addresses along with their discussion posts...
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