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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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 Posted - 07/08/2007 : 21:55:44
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I saw it and am still shaking my head going WTF?
I wasn't a big fan (I was in college in 1984, learning how to up my alcohol consumption) of the original, if that really matters.
I'm thinking I would have liked it without any dialogue whatsoever. Just the Big Fucking Robots shooting everyone. |
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MguyXXV 
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Posted - 07/08/2007 : 21:58:30
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Wait MBI: so you wanted to see more robot pissing after Optimus Prime showed up?
You paid nine dollars??!!?!? I used a free movie pass and paid the kids' fee of $6.50 for my daughter, so I guess I'm not so invested in my investment. You are entitled to your opinion MBI, but your reaction suggests that you were expecting a lot more out of this movie. As I recall from the cartoon series as well, the basic premise is that there's two groups of alien robots are battling for control of something powerful, and members of both groups can transform into various machine structures.
[The following is intended as sheer hyperbole and not as an actual attack on my esteemed colleague, who clearly has as much right to like or dislike a film as anyone else does; viewer discretion is advised, as some smilies are not suitable for children under 13.]
WHAT LIFE-CHANGING REVELATION WERE YOU EXPECTING WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE TICKET?  And given your opinion of Michael Bay, why would you expect something different than what you expected he would produce?  Perhaps a love interest for Optimus Prime?  A rebellious teen autobot who stops her own abortion to save some humans?  Bumblebee beating crack addiction?  Megatron as the secret identity of bin Laden? 
The premise has always been thin! Hell, I thought it was ridiculous when I was a teen! But for nostalgia's sake, I enjoyed this piece, and I appreciated the technical acumen that went into it, as well as some smart acting. It's not a Cannes film! So maybe you shouldn't be so upset disappointed with it.   |
Edited by - MguyXXV on 07/09/2007 13:56:41 |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 07/08/2007 : 22:03:12
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This movie is bleeping awesome.
More later. |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 07/08/2007 : 23:29:52
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I didn't want it to be life-changing, I wanted it to be good! Just because I went to a popcorn movie, expected a popcorn movie and got a popcorn movie doesn't mean I shut off all my critical faculties. There are good popcorn movies and bad popcorn movies just like anything else. I wasn't expecting it to be deep or complicated, I just didn't want it to suck so fucking hard.
And yes, I wanted more robot pissing, in the sense that I would have preferred it to the completely worthless action sequences.
Seriously, I'm curious now, what's everyone's opinion on the Charlie's Angels movies? |
Edited by - MisterBadIdea on 07/08/2007 23:30:23 |
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Conan The Westy
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"
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Posted - 07/08/2007 : 23:37:15
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silly
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 04:12:59
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I've never watched a Charlie's Angels movie.
I'm so ashamed.
(I probably still have my childhood crush on Farrah, so even if they are full of Oscar Caliber Performances, well, they'll fall short)
I'm upset that all the transformers were General Motors vehicles. Like they couldn't find something better to transform into  |
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TitanPa
"Here four more"
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 05:40:38
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Loved the First Charlie's movie. never should have been a second.
Loved Dukes of Hazzard.
I just loved the 80's! |
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MguyXXV
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 08:21:29
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Whoa there buddy: Optimus Prime was a Peterbilt truck, not a GM, in the movie. NOBODY should mistake a Peterbilt for a GM! In fact, I don't think GM even competes in the Class 6 - 8 truck market. Man, that's almost like mistaking a Vespa for a Harley-Davidson! 
That being said, I did not care for the Charlies' Angels movies at all, nor did I watch them in the theater. Then again, I wasn't big on the TV series, as I felt it was a twist on any number of private detective premises, done with that "let's wrap up a world domination foiled plot in 30 minutes" theme that pervaded early 80s TV.
THAT being said, I watched some of the shows, because, hey, they were hot chicks. But I never expected too much from the shows.
I guess we just have different opinions, MBI, when it comes to the Transformers movie. Unlike many other adaptations, it didn't fall directly into the tongue-in-cheek stuff of self-parody, but it also didn't abandon its basic kiddie-fantasy underpinnings. Sorry if I unfairly implied the wrong thing about your expectations (I realize that I didn't use appropriate smilies, as I was not trying to be actually harsh appropriately edited now); I went into it expecting to be distracted by only the CGI, thus I was very happy to come away with more than I expected in the way it kept faithful to it's 80s kid premise. |
Edited by - MguyXXV on 07/09/2007 13:42:35 |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 12:40:35
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quote:
Originally posted by MguyX
WHAT LIFE-CHANGING REVELATION WERE YOU EXPECTING WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE TICKET? And given your opinion of Michael Bay, why would you expect something different than what you expected he would produce? Perhaps a love interest for Optimus Prime? A rebellious teen autobot who stops her own abortion to save some humans? Bumblebee beating crack addiction? Megatron as the secret identity of bin Laden?
Y'know, some of us were really looking forward to a sequel without spoilers. Thanks a lot. |
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MguyXXV
"X marks the spot"
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 13:40:48
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Sorry.  |
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 14:33:34
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Interestingly, I found the non-action scenes and the low-brow comedy worked much better than the robot action, which I found tedious and confusing. It was better than I expected, mind.
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silly
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 15:33:17
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quote:
Originally posted by MguyX
Whoa there buddy: Optimus Prime was a Peterbilt truck, not a GM, in the movie. NOBODY should mistake a Peterbilt for a GM!
Oops, sorry, you have me there. I was thinking more of the Pontiac and Chevy, when we already established there was a Porche dealer in town
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 16:42:59
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I swear to God if they made Bumblebee a Porche I would have walked out right there.
I finally saw this yesterday and I loved it. It's not sophisticated entertainment by any means, but it was a whole lot of fun and that's all I wanted out of it. I thought the action was exciting, and the plot was simple and basic but not stupid. I really wanted to cheer when Prime finally delivered his trademark, "Autobots: roll out!" I can make a few suggestions of how I'd improve it, but the only true complain I have is that Sam was one seriously annoying dude who just would NEVER shut up...when Barricade was facing him down, I really hoped he'd run him over. But I never allow a single annoying character to ruin an entire film for me (Mary Corleone Syndrome).
Improvements:
-Slightly more identifiable robots so their movements could be easier to follow, especially during battle.
-More Transformers' character development, it seems we only got to know Bumblebee and Prime. I wish the relationship between Starscream and Megatron could have been developed, that was always a great feature of the cartoon...although it would have made it hard to save Megatron for the end of the film, which was a GREAT idea.
-Maybe a tiny bit more pseudo-scientific explanation of how the Transformers "reconfigure" themselves to match the local technology, but don't dwell on it.
I liked the humor, mostly. Despite Sam's constant babbling, even he had some funny lines, like when he said the robots "must be from Japan," which is funny of course because Transformers are from Japan. Bumblebee was spot on, he was always portrayed as basically an immature teenager and watching him help another teenager score with a chick was hilarious (and a nice gag with the VW Beetle at the dealership, considering the Bumblebee toy/cartoon character was originally a Beetle). I even thought Megatron referring to humans as "fleshies" was very clever, and Frenzy was delicious as that impish little psychopath.
Clearly set up for a sequel...the Autobots are still here, they have no home to go back to, there are a lot of familiar characters yet to be introduced (Hot Rod comes to mind), and nobody bothered to destroy the Decepticons, they just dropped their remains to the bottom of the ocean, where they actually lived in the cartoon...although Megatron's really dead (or is he?  ) |
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 17:50:22
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I'll admit that I didn't get to full-on hatred of this movie until Optimus Prime showed up. The movie before that part alternates between stupid-good and stupid-bad pretty unevenly before that. I don't mind the car helping Shia get the girl. I minded extremely when in the middle of an intense fight, the movie cut to a nose-picking Middle Eastern operator lazily not doing his job. I don't ask that movies be groundbreaking or even intelligent, but I do ask that the plot be even a little interesting and the action sequences make sense. I loved 300 and I would even defend Titanic, but this is a level of inanity I can not support.
Seriously, this movie is just as bad as Godzilla '98 or Batman & Robin. In fact, I think I prefer those movies, at least they commit themselves firmly to silliness. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 18:13:52
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| I thought Charlie's Angels and 300 were both el crappola. |
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