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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  10:15:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MRHJSIMPSON

Rocky Films; Eye for the www.tigerbeer.co.uk
Crouching Tiger; Crouching www.tigerbeer.co.uk Hidden Dragon
Tigerland; (you guessed it) www.tigerbeer.co.uk Land.

W.T.F.?
quote:
lets just say I was inspired!

Let's not.
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  10:15:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by benj clews

You're not an employee of Tiger Beer by any chance are you?

Anyway, shouldn't he be loyal to Duff?
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Mr Savoir Faire 
"^ Click my name. "

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  10:21:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MRHJSIMPSON

Rocky Films; Eye for the www.tigerbeer.co.uk
Crouching Tiger; Crouching www.tigerbeer.co.uk Hidden Dragon
Tigerland; (you guessed it) www.tigerbeer.co.uk Land.

Bit of a theme. I had the tiger beer website open and lets just say I was inspired!

Another of my favourites;

Sideways; Sliced or Hooked Ball!



I can think of a few more!

Twin www.tigerbeer.co.uk s
What's up, www.tigerbeer.co.uk lily?

This is so weird.

Edited by - Mr Savoir Faire on 03/12/2007 10:21:52
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MRHJSIMPSON 
"Digital, Artist, Mostly, Happy"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  10:37:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just liked the idea of thinking of adverts in 4 words. I work in advertising. But am not working for Tiger. Maybe I should email them!!! I love tigerbeer.co.uk lilly! Classic! Think that wins. Can't think of any more.

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MRHJSIMPSON 
"Digital, Artist, Mostly, Happy"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  11:06:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps I should go subliminal (spelling?)

Eye of the Beer

Crouching Beer Hidden Dragon

Twin Beers

Beerland. (that is my favourite.)
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randall 
"I like to watch."

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  11:13:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lemmycaution

[quote]


Geezer footnote--I saw HTWWW when it first was shown in Cinerama. Sure was big. The original three-camera Cinerama never really caught on because the seams in the screen were distracting.


I saw 2001 in the same process when it was first released, and I agree about the seams. However, the early shot where the leopard jumped down from off-screen left was really startling. It looked like the beastie had actually jumped over my left shoulder.
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  12:44:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MRHJSIMPSON

Rocky Films; Eye for the www.tigerbeer.co.uk
Crouching Tiger; Crouching www.tigerbeer.co.uk Hidden Dragon
Tigerland; (you guessed it) www.tigerbeer.co.uk Land.

Bit of a theme. I had the tiger beer website open and lets just say I was inspired!

Another of my favourites;

Sideways; Sliced or Hooked Ball!



Hi Mr HJ Simpson (If I can call you that),

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do with the tiger reviews, but I'm pretty certain that they're not going to get approved. Mostly because they're not reviews, as such. Try looking at the top reviews for an idea of what goes down well here.

Also, your 'Sideways' review - is that a review of the film or the word? If it's the latter, you're not going to get an approval there either.

Good luck

BB
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  13:21:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MRHJSIMPSON

Perhaps I should go subliminal (spelling?)

Eye of the Beer

Crouching Beer Hidden Dragon

Twin Beers

Beerland. (that is my favourite.)



Personally I would send these off to the writers of the Simpsons. Classic Homer. I've been giggling about these for ages I think Beerland would be Homer's favourite too.
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  13:33:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyway, to get back to the point of the thread

I think these type of discussions are useful because there is certainly a skill to writing fwfrs and some people (particularly those at the top of the heap) are very good at it. It's good to get feedback on reviews that you think are sooooo good. Once people start dissecting them you can see what's wrong or could be improved.

I agree with the comment (was it from lemmycaution) that the longer you are on the site the more you get to see what will work. My rejection rate has gone down from around 65% to around 15%. It's also true that the really abstract but devilishly clever (we think) ones are hard to get approved. If reviews don't stand alone without the detailed explanation they probably aren't valid for the site.

One of my rejected ones was Documenatry about capitalist powermongers (for Enron: Smartest Guys in the Room).

This is a play on 'powermonger' which colloquially means someone who thrives on a power trip. It also has a literal meaning of someone 'dealing' in power. Both these apply to the Enron dudes. I din't think this was too 'arcane'.

A direct appeal to the 'boss' was ignored, so I resubmitted it as Documentary about 'energetic' powermongers. I don't like that as much, but let's see.

In contrast Smartest Guys in Jail was accepted without qualms and is now my highest voted review!!
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  13:44:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shiv

I agree with the comment (was it from lemmycaution) that the longer you are on the site the more you get to see what will work. My rejection rate has gone down from around 65% to around 15%.

I imagine that my rejection rate went down at the very beginning, but I don't see a low rejection rate as much of a measure. I could easily only write reviews that would definitely be accepted (and still ones that contained some wordplay), but ideally I prefer submitting reviews that push the boundaries by their concision (i.e. risking being 'generic') or, as you say, abstractness etc. etc.
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It's also true that the really abstract but devilishly clever (we think) ones are hard to get approved. If reviews don't stand alone without the detailed explanation they probably aren't valid for the site.

I don't agree that the stand-alone thing needs to be the case for any more than a tiny minority of those who read the review, though. Not all reviews have to be understood by everyone.
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One of my rejected ones was Documenatry about capitalist powermongers (for Enron: Smartest Guys in the Room).

This should definitely have been approved.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 03/12/2007 13:45:22
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  14:32:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian
I imagine that my rejection rate went down at the very beginning, but I don't see a low rejection rate as much of a measure. I could easily only write reviews that would definitely be accepted (and still ones that contained some wordplay), but ideally I prefer submitting reviews that push the boundaries by their concision (i.e. risking being 'generic') or, as you say, abstractness etc. etc.

Don't get me wrong - I'm aiming for this too. I've even deleted some of my 'say what you sees' because they were just too boring. The ones I had rejected were just waaaaay out there. I have a very skewy view on things which wasn't coming across very well in four words. I do, however, see my rejection rate drop as a positive thing. I was submitting a lot of generic reviews in the beginning, but I couldn't see it. Posting a few of them on fourum and getting feedback really helped me. The reason I post on FYCTH even with my limited number of reviews is to test them out. I had a review for Veronica Guerin 'Dealers eliminate outspoken Guerin'. It didn't get much response. I then resubmitted it as 'Drug dealers 'smoke' Guerin' and it's had a good response. Same message, just better wordplay (there being none at all in the first one!) Still not top of the range, though.

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I don't agree that the stand-alone thing needs to be the case for any more than a tiny minority of those who read the review, though. Not all reviews have to be understood by everyone.

I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure if that's how I see it at the moment. If someone has seen the movie they should be able to get the review. If they haven't seen it, then some reviews will be opaque, but there's also clever ones that tell you something about the movie. I've voted on a lot of reviews for films I haven't seen. But yes, there will be some that only the film buffs will get.

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One of my rejected ones was Documenatry about capitalist powermongers (for Enron: Smartest Guys in the Room).

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian This should definitely have been approved.



Thanks
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MRHJSIMPSON 
"Digital, Artist, Mostly, Happy"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  15:02:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers Shiv...I realise the error now, you are right....I was just playing with the title rather than reviewing the film....Sideways has golf in it....I know it was bad, too vague really.

ok think think...

I have it,

Wine Fuelled Road Trip

shall I submit it guys? What do we think? Or...

Sideways Stag Weekend

(I'm gutted I can't have an avatar image! I just made a film poster for Crouching Beer Hidden Dragon! So Funny! One of the characters is staring into a bottle of Tiger beer instead of his telescope!) I might do one for Beerland starring Homer Simpson instead of Mr Farrell. Although the conflict between Duff and Tiger would be extreme!
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Demisemicenturian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  15:07:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shiv

quote:
I don't agree that the stand-alone thing needs to be the case for any more than a tiny minority of those who read the review, though. Not all reviews have to be understood by everyone.

I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure if that's how I see it at the moment. If someone has seen the movie they should be able to get the review.

Some of my reviews which fall into this category are puns on linguistic terms, e.g. "'Bow-wow' linguistic theory", and you might be the only person who would get those. Another category is nationally-specific references - it's not fair if we can make British/Australian ones but bife, ChocolateLady and Ali cannot make Dutch/Israeli/Turkish ones.

Edited by - Demisemicenturian on 03/12/2007 15:09:46
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  15:09:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Shiv

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I don't agree that the stand-alone thing needs to be the case for any more than a tiny minority of those who read the review, though. Not all reviews have to be understood by everyone.

I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure if that's how I see it at the moment. If someone has seen the movie they should be able to get the review.

Some of my reviews which fall into this category are puns on linguistic terms, e.g. "'Bow-wow' linguistic theory", and you might be the only person who would get those. Another catgory is nationally-specific references - it's not fair if we can make British/Australian ones but bife, ChocolateLady and Ali cannot make Dutch/Israeli/Turkish ones.



But apparently everyone can make Irish ones!!
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MRHJSIMPSON 
"Digital, Artist, Mostly, Happy"

Posted - 03/12/2007 :  15:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As you can see I found out how! Whoops. What do you think commercial success.
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